Scout Roll Agreement 2017

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by AdrenolineLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't really a discussion. These are the rules that have been set and you and everyone else can vote agree and disagree. You're welcome to voice your opinion as you'd please but as stated, these are the rules, agree or disagree.

As you can clearly see from the numbers, the majority of us agree. Therefore I am entitled to use "weve" anyway I please as I speak on the majority's behalf.

Feel free to not follow these rules and I will enjoy petitioning you.

Ill enjoy doing whatever the fuck I want when I win. I agree to roll. Extra rules are unnecessary.

[AdrenolineLove]

Originally Posted by Perissh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, because this is how you decided the rules should be done, this is how everyone has to do that?

In that case, all Fungi Tunics that drop should automatically be handed to my toons. Feel free to not follow these rules, and i will enjoy petitioning you.

Did you realize how condescending, and elitist you actually come off while typing what you just typed, or are you so delusional that you actually think people should adhere to any rule you decide needs to be put in play?

"This isn't a discussion" That my friend, is what is wrong with this whole thread. You posted this with no intention of having a civilized conversation, but instead, just to make everyone do what you want.

Ayo check it out, look up top. This is a poll where you either agree or disagree. Once the vote is cast, we are trying to have a GM make this a rule. This isnt MY rule. This is the voted on rule. But thanks for trying.

[Legidias]

Originally Posted by AdrenolineLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ayo check it out, look up top. This is a poll where you either agree or disagree. Once the vote is cast, we are trying to have a GM make this a rule. This isnt MY rule. This is the voted on rule. But thanks for trying.

Whats that? No GM response yet and no GM enforced rule? Oh yeah thats right cause this is a discussion about what rules to set and not your self entitlement thread. You dont get to decide what constitutes a majority and minority of people required to enforce a rule.

[Legidias]

It woudl turn into clickfest for the two sides. This has happened (a lot) previously when savage was there. People would roll, then 2-3 members of savage would pop in and it would turn into clickfest. If savage won, they do w/e with it. If a roller won, they (usually) honored roll agreement and gave mob to whoever won roll. Once another side pops in, all previous rules are thrown out.

Would be similar annoying clickfest with 2 separate factions.

[Croco]

You win the roll, you turn in, you loot. Scalpers/farmers gtfo.

[AdrenolineLove]

Leg, youre right its not a dictatorship. This is the rules that everyone has been agreeing to.

Youre right in saying that you can legally go ahead and clickfest tomorrow, thats the entire reason were doing this. GMs have said they will honor player made agreements, here we are making a player made agreement so we have some recourse for people who dont want to follow the rule we've agreed upon.

I've reached out to Sirken to try to establish a fair timeline in which everyone gets enough time to vote and then he confirms this is the new rule. So enjoy your clickfesting for now.

[thiz1234]

WTB disc x3 21k per

[Legidias]

You realize all along ive stated over and over I do not click, and abhor it, and the fact that Ive been to many, many rolls and never won, yet I am not nearly as salty as you about it?

I am completely discussing this to keep it 100% fair and clear for loot, not to be entitled to loot simply because I show up to this a lot.

And these are not rules everyone has been agreeing to, even the other thread showed people had different rules in mind, and even here you can starkly see that not everyone agrees to it, and enough of people disagree that this wouldnt fly.

So again, stop trying to push your greedy agenda, and let people roll in fairness since they have put in the same amount of time and work you have.

Which part of they having put in the same work as you and deserve a fair shot at loot seems wrong to you exactly?

[AdrenolineLove]

If you think this is a greedy agenda because I want people who show up that need an upgrade rather than showing up with their guild at a chance to SELL the item, I don't need to speak anymore on your understanding of what happening.

I've been coming to scout for 5+ months now, I'm well aware of what has been agreed upon and these are the rules. People will never come to some magical unanimous agreement. But this is what we are voting on and so far, the majority agrees.

What you are proposing is a greedy agenda. Being able to provide weighted rolls for your friends so they can sell items is fucking greedy. I dont know how else to explain that to you. "They all showed up so they put in the time" does not apply when they are just showing up to ensure one person has an unfair advantage.

If I showed up every 10 hours and rolled 20 times, you would say "go fuck yourself" wouldn't you? It's the same thing.

[Legidias]

Originally Posted by AdrenolineLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you are proposing is a greedy agenda. Being able to provide weighted rolls for your friends so they can sell items is fucking greedy. I dont know how else to explain that to you. "They all showed up so they put in the time" does not apply when they are just showing up to ensure one person has an unfair advantage.

If I showed up every 10 hours and rolled 20 times, you would say "go fuck yourself" wouldn't you? It's the same thing.

Also, how is this a greedy agenda? I have not won turn in once despite showing up numerous times and rolling fairly. I do not bring a "roll squad" to roll with me. No one I am personally acquainted / friends with has sold disk rights. All I want is for this to be completely fair and unbiased. Bringing 20 people that all roll to let you win, means you have a great set of friends willing to spend their time to help you. How does people spending their time and energy not apply when they are, in fact, spending their time and energy?

Again, stop being greedy for yourself, let the loot be fairly distributed, and let go of your self-entitled loot.