Scout Roll Agreement 2017

[Freakish]

This is now law. Sticky please.

[Skew]

No.
If you win roll and have tools you can do what you want with the mob/disc.

[Troxx]

Voted no simply because no such msg board agreement is binding unless 100% of the community is behind it.

It's a great thought, but no.

An easier solution would be to find a creative way to disable the profitability. Could change the quest mob to give the person who turns in tools a second item that must be turned in along with disk to make sure you can't just loot disk.

If you take profit out of the equation the field gets opened up to people looking to finish for their own characters.

/shrug

It's sad that this many months into velious this quest is still a clickfest. The mob is up every 10 hours for fucks sake.

[LiQuid]

This mob is NOT a clickfest. Everybody that shows up to these, rolls on them. There hasn't been a clickfest or someone jump the line and hand in without rolling in MONTHS. It has been civil, despite what this and the other Scout thread suggests.

There hasn't been a dispute between people wanting to roll and not wanting to roll at all. Everyone agrees that roll is preferable to clickfest.

The dispute is and has always been about what the winner can do with the disk after the giant is dead. Half of the people feel like it should ONLY go to the person that won and half of the people think that it should be up to the winner what they do with it (read: let a friend loot it or sell the loot rights). THIS is what caused this entire debate in the first place and it is still unresolved and will likely never be resolved.

I think the fact that there's even a roll at all is a win and people need to stop trying to police what winners do with the disk. Because if you do that, the type of people that just want to sell loot rights are going to resort to skipping the roll and just clicking for FTE and that will revert the entire mob back into an FTE race. It's rare enough for someone to even sell loot rights that it's honestly not worth disrupting what's already working cause you're bent out of shape that one person made 20k for /ran 1000'ing higher than you whereas had YOU won, all you would have gotten was a nearly best in slot item for your class.

[Skew]

Originally Posted by LiQuid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This mob is NOT a clickfest. Everybody that shows up to these, rolls on them. There hasn't been a clickfest or someone jump the line and hand in without rolling in MONTHS. It has been civil, despite what this and the other Scout thread suggests.

There hasn't been a dispute between people wanting to roll and not wanting to roll at all. Everyone agrees that roll is preferable to clickfest.

The dispute is and has always been about what the winner can do with the disk after the giant is dead. Half of the people feel like it should ONLY go to the person that won and half of the people think that it should be up to the winner what they do with it (read: let a friend loot it or sell the loot rights). THIS is what caused this entire debate in the first place and it is still unresolved and will likely never be resolved.

I think the fact that there's even a roll at all is a win and people need to stop trying to police what winners do with the disk. Because if you do that, the type of people that just want to sell loot rights are going to resort to skipping the roll and just clicking for FTE and that will revert the entire mob back into an FTE race. It's rare enough for someone to even sell loot rights that it's honestly not worth disrupting what's already working cause you're bent out of shape that one person made 20k for /ran 1000'ing higher than you whereas had YOU won, all you would have gotten was a nearly best in slot item for your class.

tldr

gonna go with random-win-sell and if thats a problem i can give you a free guided tour of my ball sack at night with specs op grade nightvision goggles.

[danzig]

If random-win-sell is what it takes to get Skew to roll then you guys should do it.

His trash talking at rolls will be well worth it.

Voting for RWS.

[perturbed]

Agree

[AdrenolineLove]

Originally Posted by Perissh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How does this work? If 23 people agree and 22 people disagree, the 22 people who disagree are forced to obey everyone else's rules or risk being banned?

This will not be the case. It wont be 22 vs 23. There will be a huge gap because the majority of us aren't salty greedy cucks and thats why we've agreed to do it this way in the first place.

[Legidias]

Originally Posted by AdrenolineLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

salty greedy cucks

Then stop being a salty greedy cuck and demanding you get loot.

Im trying to be 100% fair to everyone, while youre saying to not be greedy while at the same time whining how you put in the same hours as everyone else yet you deserve the loot.

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by Perissh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Player made agreement cant be made if not all players agree to it. That defeats the whole purpose. If a player made agreement is something that a couple of people can agree on and force everyone else to adhere to, I'm going to start posting some insane agreements and have my friends agree to them.

East Commons Tunnel cannot be used to sell items going forward. All auctions must now be done inside of High Keep in the room behind the banker.

I like this agreement. It is now ratified.