Is a "No Lock-Down" Rule Possible?

[Tuurin]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many players were there at the time? How many servers? Do you have posts confirming the same policy was being enforced unilaterally across all of them? Because so far you haven't proven that. All you need is a post from the person in charge of the guide program stating when the PnP was going to go into affect. Go find that post and then come back, otherwise you are just using people's personal experience as evidence which is ANECODTAL.



And one example disproves me comment now? Nice job ignoring all the other questions though troll

You are not entitled to anything on this server. Either put in as much time as the other people or stop bitching when you don't have the same gear. That is classic

Way to tee yourself up there bud.

[Pokesan]

Ikon, you'll farm 3 jeldorins before convincing Maner of anything. he's not interested in facts.

[Ikon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ikon, you'll farm 3 jeldorins before convincing Maner of anything. he's not interested in facts.

I know but it is fun watching him squirm.

[heartbrand]

What the fuck is a mana orb

[heartbrand]

Also PNP is very classic, I used it to grief groups in lower guk by forcing them to share frenzied with me.

[Ezrick]

For those of you who are newbs (which is most of you if you weren't around in Mar of 99) consider the EQ was launched without the concept of Lore items.

Lore was introduced just a few weeks after launch in an attempt to stop monopolization of, wait for it, the Polished Granite Tomahawk. It was actually the second attempt to do this, the first being increasing the weight to make it a severe stamina drain to dual wield.

You have to remember, there wasn't a single cleric capable or rezzing a player on any server so the concept of corpsing items didn't exist. Introducing the concept of Lore was intended to force players to get the item they were after and move on to something else.

So yes, at least the concept of trying to stop players or groups of players from monopolizing spawns was around right from the start.

[supermonk]

if you're not in a raiding guild, you're going to hit a ceiling fairly quickly. if you still want to progress what other option do you have besides farming? you can't win on this box; you receive vitriol if you're in a raiding guild for not sharing mobs. the same concept applies if you're a farmer..but you only farm in order to buy items from raiding guilds.

I just wish people had the sense to talk it out with the opposing party instead of instantly petitioning for feeling slighted, not being slighted.

[Tuurin]

I've seen this sentiment expressed a few times here- do you really think you can just crack open a minotaur hero brew and shoot the shit with people and they're going to give up their precious monopoly on a camp? Have you ever had one of these types of interactions? It really doesn't work that way most of the time.

Most of the time you'll be either completely ignored (afk?) or ridiculed and called a newb for not knowing the rulebook. At best, you'll politely be told that they're planning on camping it for another 8 hours or so and there are 4 other people on the list after them so come back on Tuesday if you want a chance at the camp.

If something is technically allowed in the rules, people will do it and quote the rulebook to you despite any level of logical discourse you try to have. EQ is/was a pretty hardcore-type of game, and P1999 is the boiled-down neckbeardy version of EQ so of course it's going to have a disproportionate level of people who would gladly spend DAYS camping something to farm plats to pay for a MQ to get 20 more Hps out of their wrist slot.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Tuurin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At best, you'll politely be told that they're planning on camping it for another 8 hours or so and there are 4 other people on the list after them so come back on Tuesday if you want a chance at the camp.

I'm sure "8 hours or so and ... 4 other people on the list" was meant to be hyperbole, but I've played here for years and that really doesn't match what I've seen (except perhaps for the OOT AC at peak times). At all other competitive camps you have about a 35% chance to get the camp in less than an hour (either it will be free or the current camper will leave within an hour), and if you sit around waiting for them to leave on purpose (or die or zone,) your odds grow to like 80% in about two hours.

So if you want (say) an Earring of Essence from the Soothsayer in Droga just show up (at off-peak times if possible). If someone is there ask them how long they'll be, and then AFK and check back in every so often for a couple hours. You're likely to get the camp in that time, and if not you're very likely to get it by doing the same thing for another night or two. Or, don't wait around as long and log back in to check on the camp more frequently instead.

It still might take a lot of goblins to spawn a Soothsayer, and a lot of Soothsayers to get the earring, but hey that's EverQuest. The point is, it's not other players stopping you from getting the earring, it's your own willingness to be patient and play at off-peak hours, and the actual game itself.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Tuurin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm confused Loramin- didn't you start this thread? The thread is about locking down mobs/drops for extended amounts of time (days/weeks) to prevent others from accessing content and hoarding vast amounts of rare gear. Of course that's not the case at the Soothsayer camp in 2017.

Yeah sorry I lost the context when I was reading your post and misread it as a general whine about camps on P99. Please ignore.