America Vs China

[naez]

If you want to get technical about it, France was an ally for early America against Britain, joining 1778 and ending it with the Treaty of Paris in 1783. Their help in the victory later led to the French revolution. As I said earlier, America freeing itself from 'divine right to rule' toppled the elite world-wide.

If in this scenario allies were allowed, it would be in favor of the Chinese. The principle nations of Eurasia, along with the likely inclusion of Russia (who has recently stopped using USD in its trades with China), is more than the Atlantic world could put up a fight against.

[soup]

Not really sure what you guys who voted for China think China could do. Pretty much all China could do to touch the US mainland is launch ICBMs that don't have nuclear warheads, horribly neutering their effectiveness (I'm assuming they have ICBMs that can reach the US, not 100% sure though)

The US Navy is too powerful. China would be almost completely unable to to get anyone anywhere near the US. Maybe some small scale black ops type of stuff, but that wouldn't be nearly enough to topple the US without something on a larger scale going on.

That's not to say the US could just stroll into China and just decimate everything no problem, but at least the US would be able to put people on Chinese soil, in Chinese air, and in Chinese waters.

[naez]

Actually the US navy is rendered useless sitting ducks by Chinese submarines. This is a recent development within the past few years as they have been popping up behind US naval carriers during military exercises. This goes back to the same secret societies who have threated to blow up the USA's satellites because of our foreign policy.

[bakkily]

haarp, would devistate major ports/areas where they can get to sea, air fast enough, though it would take a hell of a lot of energy

[Ronas]

China is the factory of the world, they mass produce ships/tanks/subs/missles/planes anything. Like if they send out 20 000 ships all over the place, plus 20 000 remote planes controlled by there elite gaming soldiers, it would be something like 20-100 to one on every american military unit. You saying 50 shitty planes vus one elite plane they wont be able to take it out?

Its a numbers game in both war and EQ

[Juda]

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[Beastro]

Originally Posted by Ronas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hot topic back in 2004-2006 but come 2011 if these two countries were to fight it out who would win?

Rules: No Nukes allowed, No Allies allowed.

Kind of war used
Combat, Land/Air/Sea.

No Economic war since china ripping it at the moment.

Stalemate as there is no land to fight on. The only option would be a war in Korea.

China lacks the aircraft and navy to attack the US, the US doesn't have the army to fight China in a land war beyond South Korea.

If they beat them back an offensive into the North and China would be suicide.

This, of course, ignores the fact that the two sides wouldn't goto war in the first place.

[Beastro]

BTW and not of a surprised, ignore every post Naez makes.

[naez]

Beastro fancies himself a brilliant military strategist. However, his basic lack of understanding of the geopolitical context that current events play handicaps his ability to do so. He also grossly downplays the role that secret societies play in the horse trading of international affairs.

America was the leading superpower for the past century. China will be the new one.

[Beastro]

Beastro fancies himself a brilliant military strategist.

No, I just parrot others who know wtf they're talking about.

America was the leading superpower for the past century. China will be the new one.

Depends on if China implodes due to population and ecological damage. If not, then yes.