It's Time to Start Allowing for Open Naggy/Vox Raids (open letter to Raiders)

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suspect that, besides reading P99 forums, you have no experience to back up any of your opinions expressed in this post and would like to kindly request you refrain from offering input on anything raid-related in the future.

I spent more than a few months in a fairly popular/successful "casual" raid guild that operates right now on p99. I seen firsthand how they were all over golems and how they drooled over getting tears that were looted solely for MQs.

I can say from experience, I watched how the inner circle of that guild got most, and fringe guild members got what slowly trickled down.

How did members get to be in that inner circle? People kissed officers asses, and got to group up in cliques with the officers. These people always were prioritized to be helped while lesser favored members had to beg for help, and usually ended up waiting months to get assistance when they needed guild support.

Cecily, I realize you have a personal problem with me however why don't you refrain from speaking about me when it's clear you honestly know nothing about me. Thanks pal. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Obeast44]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suspect it's middle tier "casual" raid guilds that are more of the problem than A/A when it comes to lower tier raid mobs being socked.

It seems more often than not, it's not top tier dragon raiding guilds who are cockblocking lower tier dragons and epic mob spawns, it's your family-friendly zerg raid guilds doing it.

I don't see how A/A is thirsting over lvl 52 dragon loots, even if Bladestoppers are highly touted, how many have they already farmed by this point?

Too bad there isn't a running list of who kills what at all times regarding raid mobs. It would really be telling exactly who the greediest actually are.

Wrong, not a few days ago a multi guild group was clearing fire giants on the way to Naggy, mostly consisting of 45-52s. As soon as we got close, about 30+ a Aftermath logged into the hallways, swiped the kill, and logged right back out in said hallway. That's neckbeard pixel monger BS, and it needs to be addressed.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Obeast44 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong, not a few days ago a multi guild group was clearing fire giants on the way to Naggy, mostly consisting of 45-52s. As soon as we got close, about 30+ a Aftermath logged into the hallways, swiped the kill, and logged right back out in said hallway. That's neckbeard pixel monger BS, and it needs to be addressed.

I am not saying you are wrong, perhaps Aftermath is hogging all the lesser tier raid mobs now.

But - you have one anecdotal piece of evidence, one situation and you are ready to proclaim that Aftermath does this constantly and all the time?

I just think many people in this thread have personal dislikings for certain guilds/people and are reacting on those feelings, instead of simply showing support for the actual meaning of the thread.

***That includes me, I am a bit jaded towards some guilds due to personal experiences with them.

Anyway, I am done with this thread GL with making this work. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*snipped angry rant*

Cecily... We all have limited experiences in part because it's impossible to have experienced everything that every guild has done. Thus, naturally we speak from our personal albeit limited experiences. That's kind of how people operate, right?

I just find it funny you ask me to leave you alone on the forums, and yet you want to openly attack me. I honored your request, why not provide a little quid pro quo here?

Anyway, I am done with this thread GL with making this work. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[skarlorn]

Yes let's get some Aftermath people in here voicing their agreement. Then we can go forward organizing some sort of treaty, even for one dragon every couple of months.

It's not hard, folks.

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In other news, rotations don't work thanks to your guild...and here we are [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quit trolling server chat or get banned

[Swish]

That's a legit reason why we never saw rotations with Velious. Sorry you interpret that differently, are directing traffic and attempting a derail.

More open raids is good for the server, but to expect GM intervention after what happened last time we had anything like that, it's a bit steep. It needs to come from the community, so the hardcore guilds essentially need to give some up. If that won't happen, well, casuals are going without pixels.

[skarlorn]

Yeah, I think Omni has led the only open Vox in server history, to my knowledge. Glad to see members of CSG signing on.

It's fun for everyone!

[Swish]

What's Rustle's position on this? I'm curious.

[username17]

This would be great. I've killed plenty of dragons but never Nag or Vox at the right level. I have a cleric and monk I've been leaving in the low 50s just for this.

[SunDrake]

Honestly, I can't believe after seven years this isn't a thing, but it should be.

A+ on the initiative, Filbus. If this is gonna be a server that people spend the rest of their lives on it should be a place that allows everyone some shot at 'fun' shit.

[Boilon]

Being on Project 1999 is probably the first time since live that there hasn't been an active public raid scene. But, I think E'ci (in the hey day of kunark-PoP) was one server where public raiding was almost superior to the top-end guild. Naggy/Vox public raids were a weekly thing with sign ups / epic drop charts for War/Bard/Paladin who needed scale and book drops. It is really disappointing that it is not more of a thing here.

But, I mean p99 is far removed from the cooperation that I used to see on live back in 99-02/3 days. Here is hoping to something in the future though.