Which is the more active class, Enchanter or Bard / How to play them?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Borak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's hard to take someone seriously when they've probably seen the icon on their screen for hours on end and can't remember it's spelled Cantana, not Cantina.

I mean, when "Bards are inferior to almost every other class in the game for any purpose", why ask them for resist songs on certain encounters, when so many other classes can do resists better? Why do rogues and monks keep asking to group with epic'd bards on raids, I'm at a loss! /s

I am reminded of an old BASF commercial that used to air 15-20 years ago. The tagline was this: 'BASF. We don't make a lot of the products you buy. We make a lot of the products you buy, better.'

I was surprised, I seen bard-haters but it's usually aimed at the swarmkiters not the group bards.

[Aalderon Crystafire]

Originally Posted by Borak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's hard to take someone seriously when they've probably seen the icon on their screen for hours on end and can't remember it's spelled Cantana, not Cantina.

It's actually supposed to be Cantata - typo on Verant's part. They fixed it later but we haven't applied that yet to P99... I'll have to check the timeline.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR: Bards have to wear themselves out to provide marginal buff utility while providing 0 DPS, no ability to CC at the high end, no ability to charm at the high end, no ability to do much of anything besides sing a lame regen song and talk about how much skill it takes to provide buffs no one actually wants or needs.

rofl Spyder just ruined any chances I will ever pick up a bard again as a mess-around alt. I already hate the finger tapping insanity.

When it's explained as Spyder has done here, there's no reason to ever play a bard.

Carpal Tunnel is real, and when all that work is redundant it's idiotic playing a bard.

Thanks Spyder, for clarifying it.

[Cleric4]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard songs are not great - no reason to twist 5 when all anyone wants 55+ is Cantina and maybe a damage shield...Bards are inferior to almost every other class in the game for any purpose besides running in circles killing low/mid level trash

Cantata + Chorus x 3

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard songs are not great - no reason to twist 5 when all anyone wants 55+ is Cantina and maybe a damage shield...Bards are inferior to almost every other class in the game for any purpose besides running in circles killing low/mid level trash

you have no idea what your talking about

[Legidias]

Even if thats what he meant, still terrible (imo) advice. The time lag between macro lines is too long. Even 11, 22, 33 is slower than using another key to stop a song then casting another one.

Its a good starter way to get used to twisting easier, but being able to stop and cast a song that much quicker (~0.5sec) is worth it as it can be the difference of a mob bashing your face in and getting a mez / charm off.

[zanderklocke]

Come read about my surgery on my wrist due to playing a bard! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=176915

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To be honest though, the kiting with my hand on the mouse moving in a circle repetitively a few years ago is what messed it up my wrist. I can remember one session when I was leveling up in South Karana in 2012, and my wrist felt super numb/sore after like an hour of kiting. I squeezed my wrist until it made a popping noise, much the same as knuckles make a popping noise when someone cracks their knuckles. I then went right back to leveling for another hour or two. Over time, kiting aggravated and created a ganglion cyst in my wrist. The repetitive tapping of keys to twist songs never really affected my body at all. I got the ganglion cyst removed, as seen above, but it came back. :/

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come read about my surgery on my wrist due to playing a bard! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=176915

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To be honest though, the kiting with my hand on the mouse moving in a circle repetitively a few years ago is what messed it up my wrist. I can remember one session when I was leveling up in South Karana in 2012, and my wrist felt super numb/sore after like an hour of kiting. I squeezed my wrist until it made a popping noise, much the same as knuckles make a popping noise when someone cracks their knuckles. I then went right back to leveling for another hour or two. Over time, kiting aggravated and created a ganglion cyst in my wrist. The repetitive tapping of keys to twist songs never really affected my body at all. I got the ganglion cyst removed, as seen above, but it came back. :/

Did you explain this to the nurses in the hospital room when they asked how you hurt your wrist, or did you do the smart thing and claim it was from your extensive MMA career?

[Raavak]

I had a similar issue. After years of playing wizard I had to get a butt replacement.

[Sonark]

All I'm getting from this is that Bards and Enchanters play like every other class plays now on Live.

I.e. a lot of hot keys and a lot of things to pay attention to.