Paladin hate

[Quasimojo]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played a rogue on live and there was NOTHING I hated more than paladins, Fucking Nothing.

All they do is spam stun, so when I steal agro from backstabbing and the mob faces me they stun the shit out of it while its facing me making positioning really annoying.

You can't resist spamming that BS key for the 2-3 seconds the mob is facing you?

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then they got the stun that had the pushback effect, so when the mob was facing them they would knock the shit out of it and every spellcast would knock the mob Through me so 3 or 4 times a fight the mob would teleport behind me as im trying to bs it.

This one I find kind of funny. I'm surprised at how many people think the outer limit of melee range is right up a mob's butt. Back up a bit, and keep the mob in front of you after a stun.

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

then the brells, OOHHH THE BRELLS! Every god damn raid I would have to get about 12 copies of ranger buffs because every 2 minutes some asshole paladin would hit me with brells.

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every paladin I told to not buff me would just buff me more they loved making me click it off every 10 minutes (blame the player not the class? Bullshit!)

This is beginning to sound more like personal problem. I can only think of one reason why I would continually buff someone who has asked me not to do so.

[Rhambuk]

stop backstabbing, okay. back out of melee range, Got it!

Everyone loves those max hp rogues throwing knives for 12dmg a pop.

Seriously though its more than annoying when you ask a tank to do something simple and they just ignore it because they have that im the man im kicking ass attitude that all tanks seem to have.

[Maurk]

Rhambuk sounds like he still has blisters up his bumhole from the flaming sword of win.
Group with me sometime, ill show you exactly why Paladins own!

[Jaleth]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stop backstabbing, okay. back out of melee range, Got it!

Everyone loves those max hp rogues throwing knives for 12dmg a pop.

Seriously though its more than annoying when you ask a tank to do something simple and they just ignore it because they have that im the man im kicking ass attitude that all tanks seem to have.

I wouldn't say I ever had that attitude. In fact I always felt I could've done better. If for whatever reason a mob's attention was pulled away briefly (hardly happened) I would apologize and focus even harder. I took my role seriously.

When we had a puller or myself bring a mob back to a camp, I would turn and face the mob's back to the rogue and waiting party, or hell even a mage's air elemental. If I knew BS'ers were in the party, I would make them do less of the work in getting around on the mob to bury their weapon in the beasty's back.

[Zubek]

Oh I don't have any problems getting groups. But almost every time someone says something about how bad other pally tanks have been. I usually get compliments. I'm talking more about the hate I read on the forums, and the fact that the class has a lower population than most other classes.

[xshayla701]

SK>Pally because Dark Elves can't be Paladins.

[Aarone]

Originally Posted by xshayla701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SK>Pally because Dark Elves can't be Paladins.

Pally > SK because Dwarf Barrel Roll > All [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mardur]

Paladins are my favorite tank in classic.

Unfortunately it's Kunark now and the reign of the Warrior.

[Mardur]

Paladins get good again in Luclin, only 10 years away!

[Ennoia]

Originally Posted by Zubek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why so much hate against paladin tanks? I know that warriors are kings of tanking raid content and rightfully so. But I read a lot of negative towards paladin vs warrior/SK tanking. I have a 19 pally as my main right now and I would think the buffs and lay on hands would be welcome along with snap agro. I know LoH has already saved a few CRs for people I've grouped with.
I guess I just dont understand the major downside.

Part of it is because people are recalling things from later on in the game that may not apply yet. A Paladin's main source of aggro is their stuns. Later on in the EQ on a lot of mobs (mostly in Velious), aren't having any of that and cannot be stunned, even partially. The SK can land a partial effect on their snare, and they still have Disease Cloud, plus constant procs going off.

Self Healing is another big issue. A Paladin needs to target himself, cast a spell, then retarget the mob (group heals mitigate this a bit, but anything substantial is going to be single target). This mean either they are missing out on valuable seconds of added DPS/Aggro, or the healer is compensating for the lack of self healing if the Paladin is not doing it himself. Shadowknights lifetap. GG.

Paladins also can't pull as effectively as an SK, meaning a group spot needs to be given up to a dedicated puller. A lot of times it isn't an issue, but if you're running a healer and a bunch of casters.

There are a few threads on knight comparison on www.EvilGamer.net, most likely in the Class Balance section, but I just got home from a camping trip so if you really want the info you're going to have to find it yourself.