What type of PVP server would you want

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tried to list everything that would keep server population high as possible and keep GM involvement as low as possible. Don't really even need server rules at all with that setup which will be a nice change from TZVZ. ...

This is basically what I was going for. I guess I didn't read the rest of the thread very well and misunderstood what people were arguing about.

You can't use that methodology because there aren't enough evil races and no evils with access to druid, paladin, and ranger either. The absolute closest you can do for a semi-believable roleplay setup and still give each team every class is the following setup

You forgot Bards, but still I don't think it's that uneven. I don't think each team should get every class - that's the point. There should be incentives to join certain teams, like wanting to be a necro and solo easily (or being an ogre SK/warrior and having the most stamina), forcing you to be evil. Also I could be wrong, but I think dark elves are already one of the most popular races, so there are strong non-strategic incentives to go evil already. In addition to that, there would probably be people who'd just prefer the challenge of going evil if it handicapped them a bit. I don't believe it would be as bad as you say.

Lastly:

I could easily imagine P1999 red getting an even higher population than regular P1999 if it went teams.

Let's not kid ourselves. Surely a red P99 would have a consistently high population (in the hundreds, minimum) but pvp has always been less popular than pve.

[Walk]

FFA is better, if ppl are gunan QQ so much drop the level range to +-4 lvls to pvp instead of 8, i mean if you all want teams we should just have vile do his QvF server again...i mean what if you dont like the people that rolld on ur team, you cant even kill them cause there on your team + i think everyone will flock to the side that the pro basketballers chose

[wehrmacht]

I added another possible choice for teams (if the server goes teams) on the long ass page I did at:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=31288

Race War using race as selection variable: Probably the best choice since each team gets every class. Some people will whine because one team has troll and ogre tanks. Trolls aren't even good on a PvP server because they have 5 fire resist. Barbs are just as good if not better due to practically the same stats and no gimped fire resist.

Dark Elf Alliance (evil)

Dark Elf
Troll
Iksar
Ogre
Half Elf
Erudite


Human Alliance (good)

Human
Dwarf
Gnome
Halfling
High Elf
Barbarian
Wood Elf

[Lasher]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I added another possible choice for teams (if the server goes teams)

it wont

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it wont

Hey, if you want another completely empty server with just 30 heresy and 30 random other people, go for FFA instead.

[Foxx]

lol yea, half elves would need a new starting city if that was the case lmao... nobody would hit lvl 2, surrounded on all sides by the good guys -- therefor no rangers, druid, paladin or bards would ever survive to play with their evil compadres

btw, what "good" race get SK? gnome sk isnt classic eq. sorry man i don't like that team split at all. people need to get off this "good vs evil" stuff, nobody cares about roleplaying (at least the people who are interested in red emu server, minus the harbingers people!).

so ya, sorry wehr i don't like that breakdown at all.. IMO, even teams would be like:

would be cool to break it down by "hemispheres" of the old EQ map... antonica on one team (with erudites in Odin, or whatever its called), and the other side would get the other continent i dont know the name of and kunark

team antonica
ogre
troll
barbarian
human
erudite
dark elf
halfling

team kunark
iksars
gnome
dwarf
high elf
wood elf
half elf


team antonica still has the slight advantage for PVE imo, but not by much.... no matter how u split it, whatever side gets ogre war is going to have a slight edge in PVE just because.

let me know what u think wehrmacht and other friends.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol yea, half elves would need a new starting city if that was the case lmao... nobody would hit lvl 2, surrounded on all sides by the good guys -- therefor no rangers, druid, paladin or bards would ever survive to play with their evil compadres

That's such a weak excuse. Goods and evils both start in freeport so it's not like everyone isn't going to be battle royale from 2 seconds in.

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

btw, what "good" race get SK?

Humans duh

[Foxx]

wehrmacht, you honestly think half elves would have a fighting chance? i honestly see zero hope for them if they can only start in gfay and qeynos/freeport i guess they can start in too, altho ive never played one so im not sure on the human cities for them.

not here to shoot down what you're saying, I just don't think anybody would be able to survive as a half elf, you think so?

and yea, i forgot human could be sk... prob cause nobody in their right mind would ever play one, but ur right human can play sk

i still like my setup the best (even tho i am against team server, i prefer FFA 100%) just giving my input on a team setup since I have nothing else to do right now lol. only problem with my setup is how bluebie it would be at the beginning, with nobody to pvp until you leave the continent

[Smedy]

FFA is the way to go, otherwise you're scared of competition! Sandbox style pals

[toxic8]

good VS evil 1-50