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Old 05-17-2019, 04:25 PM
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It's guilty or not guilty. It's guilty or innocent. Hope this helps.
No, it's "guilty beyond reasonable doubt" or it's not guilty.

Notice how they call it "not guilty" and not "innocent"?

Hope this helps you finally understand law and order.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:12 PM
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It's guilty or not guilty. It's not guilty or innocent. Hope this helps.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:21 PM
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JD does have a point kind of. There's a technical difference between actual innocence(when you can prove someone innocent) and a not guilty verdict(where you suspect someone's guilty but can't prove it). However living in a society where you have presumption of innocence makes that distinction irrelevant. A not guilty verdict has the same effect as a finding of actual innocence, so therefore you may as well just call the suspect innocent.

Failing to get an indictment(which requires an far lower burden of proof than a guilty verdict) after a lengthy and thorough investigation is an even stronger indicator of innocence.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:50 PM
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JD does have a point kind of. There's a technical difference between actual innocence(when you can prove someone innocent) and a not guilty verdict(where you suspect someone's guilty but can't prove it). However living in a society where you have presumption of innocence makes that distinction irrelevant. A not guilty verdict has the same effect as a finding of actual innocence, so therefore you may as well just call the suspect innocent.

Failing to get an indictment(which requires an far lower burden of proof than a guilty verdict) after a lengthy and thorough investigation is an even stronger indicator of innocence.
You can't ever "prove someone innocent". That's proving a negative.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:57 PM
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Sure you can, an alibi is one example. If there's video of a suspect being 100 miles away from the crime scene at the time the crime was committed that's actual innocence. It's rare but things like that do actually happen.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:59 PM
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Sure you can, an alibi is one example. If there's video of a suspect being 100 miles away from the crime scene at the time the crime was committed that's actual innocence. It's rare but things like that do actually happen.
You can't prove it wasn't people lying, body double, staged video etc.
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Old 05-17-2019, 09:01 PM
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You can't prove it wasn't people lying, body double, staged video etc.
'reasonable doubt' plays well with a presumption of innocence, like saltines with Schlitz
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About 100% sure at this point it's all a show and they are mocking us now
Was your lobotomy willing, forced, or accidental?
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Old 07-11-2019, 12:37 PM
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About 100% sure at this point it's all a show and they are mocking us now
Bill Clinton released a statement that he has never been to Epstein's Lolita Island. Think he's nervous?
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