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Old 05-11-2017, 03:15 PM
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Old 05-21-2017, 12:24 PM
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False. Black Bear.
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Old 05-21-2017, 12:47 PM
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False. Black Bear.
That's debatable.
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That's debatable.
Fact: Bears eat beets.
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Fact: Bears eat beets.
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Old 05-21-2017, 02:46 PM
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Shaman > Enchanter > Monk > Necro > Warrior > Rogue > Cleric > Magician > Ranger > Wizard > SK > Druid > Paladin

All things considered including power, quality of life, playstyle, opportunities for interesting play.

Insert Bard anywhere in this hierarchy depending on skill and intelligence.
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Old 05-21-2017, 03:36 PM
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Shaman > Enchanter > Monk > Necro > Warrior > Rogue > Cleric > Magician > Ranger > Wizard > SK > Druid > Paladin

All things considered including power, quality of life, playstyle, opportunities for interesting play.

Insert Bard anywhere in this hierarchy depending on skill and intelligence.
Not even close.. SK at third worst? The hell?
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You really put wizard that high up on the list?
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You really put wizard that high up on the list?
It's not so much that wizards are high, more that SK/dru/pal is low. While an individual druid is probably better than an individual wizard in more situations, I'm also weighing the fact that all guilds have pocket druids lying around and druids dont stack like wizards do.

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Not even close.. SK at third worst? The hell?
Knights are comparatively bad. They bring no dps to the group, and their only advantage over a warrior, or even a geared monk, is agro management, which isn't even necessary or even all that valuable depending on group comp. Limited raid utility, limited solo ability, gear dependent, crack dependent, and by far the most abandoned classes 45+. Most frequently seen LFG in seb all day before logging off in despair because half the groups just have a monk tanking and are doing fine
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Old 05-21-2017, 07:35 PM
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Knights are comparatively bad. They bring no dps to the group, and their only advantage over a warrior, or even a geared monk, is agro management, which isn't even necessary or even all that valuable depending on group comp. Limited raid utility, limited solo ability, gear dependent, crack dependent, and by far the most abandoned classes 45+. Most frequently seen LFG in seb all day before logging off in despair because half the groups just have a monk tanking and are doing fine
Knights are perfectly suited for their intended purpose: tanking in pick-up groups. I've made this point several times before but it can't be stated enough: the average person who plays P99 is joining pick-up groups filled with random strangers of varying skill levels who leave the group every 30 minutes and get replaced by a new stranger. It's a roll of the dice if any of these people know how to manage their aggro correctly. Some are great, some are horrible.

I leveled a Paladin 1-60 mostly in PuGs, and having snap aggro is not only incredibly useful but almost necessary for making these kinds of groups run efficiently. Yeah, Monks can mitigate incoming damage way better than me but for group content that gets steamrolled anyway, mitigation doesn't always matter as much as being able to quickly and reliably generate aggro does.

Also, I would mention that monk tanking seb is going to be eating shitloads of ice comets that a paladin could effortlessly interrupt.
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