set respawn times/locations for highly contested targets

[Lowako]

If we're going with non classic solutions, why not a fun one? Currently. some of the hate mini's can be solo'd by a monk. Why not give them 100k+ HP, let them flurry, rampage, banish, grav flux. charm people etc. You've now eliminated the ability to solo/duo farm them for platinum, and made raiding them a lot more interesting and entertaining.

[Tetsuo]

I think it would be all kinds of funny, working on fear break in and BAM mini in your face.

However extremely erratic respawn times wouldn't be so bad imo why make people wait for less than 4 days strait on possible pops

[Mead]

Sweet another thread about suggestions for spawns on p99 that aren't going to get implemented and nobody gives a fuck about.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sweet another thread about suggestions for spawns on p99 that aren't going to get implemented

Ever been so mad you ragequit P99 for your own instanced vend-a-mob raiding?

[maskedmelon]

combat non-classic adaptations with more precisely emulated classic environments: begin throttling bandwidth to 28.8k and introduce random zone and server crashes.

[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or you can just do exactly the same thing they do and get the timers and log in to kill the minis. The quest item you're talking about is also extremely rare.

Except that most don't let their lives revolve around monster spawn timers in a 17 year old MMO. That's the whole point. Stop making it so easy for people who can log in at all hours of the day or night to control the spawn timers of highly contested targets.

Originally Posted by Lowako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we're going with non classic solutions, why not a fun one? Currently. some of the hate mini's can be solo'd by a monk. Why not give them 100k+ HP, let them flurry, rampage, banish, grav flux. charm people etc. You've now eliminated the ability to solo/duo farm them for platinum, and made raiding them a lot more interesting and entertaining.

I would have no problem with that but even with that..if you have set timers you would still have people sitting on spawn points at the exact time they will spawn to control them. They need to be randomized in some way and if possible tie it to the original intent of actually raiding the zone (IMO). Any raid that is clearing the bulk of the zone should have a reasonable chance for catching some of the mini bosses like was intended.

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sweet another thread about suggestions for spawns on p99 that aren't going to get implemented and nobody gives a fuck about.

I will acknowledge that you are probably right that nothing will get implemented but I disagree that nobody gives a fuck. Also, it's not inconceivable that something could change (even if unlikely). Other things have changed here over time for better or worse.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by EQBallzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except that most don't let their lives revolve around monster spawn timers in a 17 year old MMO. That's the whole point. Stop making it so easy for people who can log in at all hours of the day or night to control the spawn timers of highly contested targets.

Then perhaps you don't deserve to get your epic if you aren't willing to put in the time necessary to acquire the drops. There are enough people on this server that if you aren't willing to camp the tough spawns you aren't going to get them. The hate minis are on 8 hour timers, you don't have to make every spawn in order to have a basic idea of when they are due. No one is going to hold your hand and give you something just because you complained about it.

if logging in once every 8 hours for 20min to clear minis or PHs is too demanding of your schedule, then just like on live, you aren't the type of player who should expect to get your epic

[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then perhaps you don't deserve to get your epic if you aren't willing to put in the time necessary to acquire the drops. There are enough people on this server that if you aren't willing to camp the tough spawns you aren't going to get them. The hate minis are on 8 hour timers, you don't have to make every spawn in order to have a basic idea of when they are due. No one is going to hold your hand and give you something just because you complained about it.

if logging in once every 8 hours for 20min to clear minis or PHs is too demanding of your schedule, then just like on live, you aren't the type of player who should expect to get your epic

I have my epic so this isn't about me. It's not even really about epics. I just assume the people farming this stuff are hunting for epic pieces they can MQ for silly amounts of plat.

Your argument is not valid because what happens here is not what happened on live. I'm not suggesting people are handed items without working for it. In classic EQ people formed raids and cleared the zone to get epic (and other) items in Hate (and other places). That's all I'm suggesting. Make changes that result in people having to do what was actually intended (clear/raid the zone) instead of allowing a few neckbeards to dominate everything by locking down the timers of the desirable mobs. What you are defending is some shitty P99 bastardization that only benefits MQ'ers and loot hoarders.

I can turn your argument around and say they should randomize timers and spawn locations and if you aren't willing to clear through the mobs to get a shot at your epic mob (or whatever) to spawn then maybe you don't deserve your epic (or whatever).

[Maner]

Originally Posted by EQBallzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have my epic so this isn't about me. It's not even really about epics. I just assume the people farming this stuff are hunting for epic pieces they can MQ for silly amounts of plat.

Your argument is not valid because what happens here is not what happened on live. I'm not suggesting people are handed items without working for it. In classic EQ people formed raids and cleared the zone to get epic (and other) items in Hate (and other places). That's all I'm suggesting. Make changes that result in people having to do what was actually intended (clear/raid the zone) instead of allowing a few neckbeards to dominate everything by locking down the timers of the desirable mobs. What you are defending is some shitty P99 bastardization that only benefits MQ'ers and loot hoarders.

I can turn your argument around and say they should randomize timers and spawn locations and if you aren't willing to clear through the mobs to get a shot at your epic mob (or whatever) to spawn then maybe you don't deserve your epic (or whatever).

You form a raid and clear the zone if the mob you are after is up, not on the hope that maybe they will spawn midway through your clear. Not to mention that the fact you are clearing a zone doesn't mean you should get rare spawns automatically. And yes on live people who were willing to put in more time than others got their epics while they were still relevant rather than 2 expansions later. Its called an epic for a reason, this server is already way over how many epics were ever on a live server even remotely close to era, and now you're bitching because you want more. If you already have your epic and it doesn't concern you then why are you complaining? are you upset that others are making plat and you're not? are you upset that no one wants to invite you to their farm groups? perhaps you just need to stop being a bitch, make some friends, and actually play the game

You seem to refer to everyone with more play time than you as a neckbeard. Perhaps your personal opinion does matter in the slightest as your singular experience is irrelevant.

You keep using this "clear through mobs" which just reinforces how little you actually comprehend the game. random spawns would just mean one of those people with more time than you will just check a tracker. When the mini pops they will then log in, pull it to their camp and kill it. They will do all of this while people like you don't even know that the mini spawned, or they discover it spawned and are still trying to get people together to go up and "clear the zone" while it dies. Your idea wont change anything in regards to players such as yourself getting anything.

I dont think you even tried live in era with the crap you're claiming. I know on xev there were single groups that camped shit like zlandi, PoH minis, and even doze so that they had a monopoly on it. Just because you never played in era or never dealt with it doesn't mean it didn't happen, another example of your opinion falling short of relevance.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by EQBallzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have my epic so this isn't about me. It's not even really about epics. I just assume the people farming this stuff are hunting for epic pieces they can MQ for silly amounts of plat.

Your argument is not valid because what happens here is not what happened on live. I'm not suggesting people are handed items without working for it. In classic EQ people formed raids and cleared the zone to get epic (and other) items in Hate (and other places). That's all I'm suggesting. Make changes that result in people having to do what was actually intended (clear/raid the zone) instead of allowing a few neckbeards to dominate everything by locking down the timers of the desirable mobs. What you are defending is some shitty P99 bastardization that only benefits MQ'ers and loot hoarders.

I can turn your argument around and say they should randomize timers and spawn locations and if you aren't willing to clear through the mobs to get a shot at your epic mob (or whatever) to spawn then maybe you don't deserve your epic (or whatever).

Not to mention that you have 5 toons, 0 are level 60 and you're bitching about end game content.