Everything related to Agnarr!

[Odann]

Originally Posted by Hakubi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh boy!

1) Mage box armies pushing everyone out of camps
2) No GM's to intervene so people intentionally train non stop.
3) Cheaters/hackers
4) MAJOR RMT Krono economy
5) EXP pots/fast grind
6) Rapid fire unlocks and raid bosses dead within a couple days
7) OP melee and classic balance issues
8) non classic content/ hundreds of "QOL" from Soul Binders, no corpse runs, to client side perks
9) Missing limited time items that will never drop
10) Instances exponentially increase the inflow of rare items causing them to become worthless
11) Droppable raid loot so nothing has any value except raid loot after the first few weeks
12) Instanced RAIDS... nothing contested so EVERYONE gets what they want and burn out extremely quickly
13) Attracts the pump and dump race kids who will leave it an empty husk void of real community, feels like a giant waste of time knowing you won't be able to jump back in in 5 years to healthy like minded people

What a shame. PoP was my favorite expansion but their model guts the best part; contesting content and the understanding that not everyone got BIS and the guy that has it in the tunnel deserve to envied, AA grinding and the expansion of class mechanics, farming plat, and having a stable economy. Seems like Daybreak is intent to drop the ball on every positive thing that WAS Planes and this will never be an Al'akbor 2.0

I numbered them to make this easier for us all.

1) Highly unlikely with a "true-box" system, but sure, maybe there will be a few. Just remember that this costs $90/mo to actually accomplish.
2) I know they said this, but I fully expect to get a GM presence of some kind similar to the other TLP's.
3) Lol yeah, no different than here.
4) See above answer.
5) I play Red so it won't be worse than that XP boost and, frankly, XP is not something I was ever concerned about with "Classic".
6) Better than years of the same expansion (Ohai Kunark).
7) You're confused. Melee are utter garbage to start. Casters reign supreme.
8) Got me here. Tons of QoL stuff in-game.
9) I'm not certain that's true. Manastone and Guise will still drop upon release.
10) I think it's more likely things that are normally quite expensive will be much less so.
11 & 12) I combined these because I legitimately think you have no idea what you're talking about. Bosses that received buffed values are not instanced. Open world dragons are not instanced. I would say only about half the raid content is instanced. Not to mention EVERY single instanced version of a raid ALSO has a contested "Classic" version as well.
13) Oh you were just trolling this whole time. Because this shitbox is perfect and the raid scene isn't completely toxic at all.


The ONLY downside to the TLP's is that they haven't made a PvP one yet.

[Soandso]

OOOO I'd like to try...

Originally Posted by Odann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I numbered them to make this easier for us all.

1) Highly unlikely with a "true-box" system, but sure, maybe there will be a few. Just remember that this costs $90/mo to actually accomplish. So yeah that's like your opinion
2) I know they said this, but I fully expect to get a GM presence of some kind similar to the other TLP's. So more of your own speculation even in the face of what the actual company said, k.
3) Lol yeah, no different than here. So like more opinion, cept its just plain wrong again. P99 has had multiple massive suspension/wave bans and also have a anti-cheat .DLL that comes packaged with the installation.I'm sure on a server that they said will have no GM intervention their really going to be on top of this.
4) See above answer. Yes RMT has reared its ugly head on this server. However,
like above, people have been banned for this and again on a server with zero GMs I don't see that enforcement happening. Also, with the Krono system there's an incentive there that's not on this server.
5) I play Red so it won't be worse than that XP boost and, frankly, XP is not something I was ever concerned about with "Classic". More personal opinion which is fine but one of the things that is synonymous with true classic EQ is how much of a grind it was and that appeals to a lot of the veterans. Also, you play Red lulz, no wonder.
6) Better than years of the same expansion (Ohai Kunark).Deflection, no dispute to the original claim. I would daresay most of the casuals actually prefer slower timelines than faster ones, especially the super hyper timelines these progressions servers have.Not to mention LDON, ewwww but that's just like my opinion,man. Though, I'm pretty sure the consensus was most people hate it too.
7) You're confused. Melee are utter garbage to start. Casters reign supreme. Both melee and casters are unbalanced in early game, not sure if you have played a progression before. I had wizard rain spells that did several waves of hundred point damage that made early mobs trivial. So yes balance issues are a legit concern.
8) Got me here. Tons of QoL stuff in-game. Not classic but again some will like some won't.
9) I'm not certain that's true. Manastone and Guise will still drop upon release. Going off other progression servers, it would seem like Legacy items will drop for a short period of time.
10) I think it's more likely things that are normally quite expensive will be much less so. Or sell for Kronos.
11 & 12) I combined these because I legitimately think you have no idea what you're talking about. Bosses that received buffed values are not instanced. Open world dragons are not instanced. I would say only about half the raid content is instanced. Not to mention EVERY single instanced version of a raid ALSO has a contested "Classic" version as well. Instanced EQ is a preference thing but still just seems to against everything that is classic EQ.
13) Oh you were just trolling this whole time. Because this shitbox is perfect and the raid scene isn't completely toxic at all. Hakubi's post was void of the language you used here and was pretty well thought out with valid concerns, some that you couldn't even dispute. Also, you play on Red so yeah.


The ONLY downside to the TLP's is that they haven't made a PvP one yet.

Don't really get why people have a problem with which servers people play on. Go play on whichever server you choose,to each their own, doesn't mean you have to trash any server. These devs volunteer their time to give us the closest thing to classic EQ and its had a steady and healthy population for like 8 years now so its obviously not a "shitbox" like you called it, then again you play on Red so I can understand that. Still not a reason to sound like an ungrateful mad person and insult their work.Why can't you just simply go play on the Daybreak servers and not trash this one. I honestly hope you enjoy your time there. Good day sir.

[Soandso]

And my italics didn't work and that's a giant wall of TLDR text.

[Odann]

Originally Posted by Freezi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Certain items will never drop. Manastone is one example. Guise will drop though. Other than that post is mostly accurate.

Really? On the EQ sub some people seem to think it will.

Originally Posted by Soandso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OOOO I'd like to try...


Don't really get why people have a problem with which servers people play on. Go play on whichever server you choose,to each their own, doesn't mean you have to trash any server. These devs volunteer their time to give us the closest thing to classic EQ and its had a steady and healthy population for like 8 years now so its obviously not a "shitbox" like you called it, then again you play on Red so I can understand that. Still not a reason to sound like an ungrateful mad person and insult their work.Why can't you just simply go play on the Daybreak servers and not trash this one. I honestly hope you enjoy your time there. Good day sir.

I think you interpreted my list as a bash to this server. It wasn't. I love P99 but to put it any higher than "shitbox" is just naive. If you truly think the dev's, namely Rogean, care about the player-base you are sorely mistaken. Go read the leaked chat logs on reddit if you're unsure. Quite the eye opener as to how exactly the staff views us.

I was merely responding to a fun list of things about the server. That's all. Nothing more. I love that P99 is a thing but considering the fact that they trolled us real hard with a Discord server and then signed an agreement with DBG I don't really have an attachment here anymore. I have my 60's with epics and it's nice to login and stare at them from time to time but that's about all it is now. This server is dead at Velious and likely to repeat what we had in Kunark. Years of nothing....

If that sounds fun to you then that's awesome! It's not fun for me anymore and I miss some things from SoL and PoP.

This will always be the best and most true form of Classic EQ but it's peak has passed and the dev's have shown us they couldn't give any shits about it.

[nhdjoseywales]

Originally Posted by Odann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really? On the EQ sub some people seem to think it will.



I think you interpreted my list as a bash to this server. It wasn't. I love P99 but to put it any higher than "shitbox" is just naive. If you truly think the dev's, namely Rogean, care about the player-base you are sorely mistaken. Go read the leaked chat logs on reddit if you're unsure. Quite the eye opener as to how exactly the staff views us.

I was merely responding to a fun list of things about the server. That's all. Nothing more. I love that P99 is a thing but considering the fact that they trolled us real hard with a Discord server and then signed an agreement with DBG I don't really have an attachment here anymore. I have my 60's with epics and it's nice to login and stare at them from time to time but that's about all it is now. This server is dead at Velious and likely to repeat what we had in Kunark. Years of nothing....

If that sounds fun to you then that's awesome! It's not fun for me anymore and I miss some things from SoL and PoP.

This will always be the best and most true form of Classic EQ but it's peak has passed and the dev's have shown us they couldn't give any shits about it.

Didn't drop on Phinny, wont drop on Agnarr.

[sezaru]

/burp

[Pokesan]

i wonder how daybreak feels about forum malcontents trash talking their product

[Darkatar]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i wonder how daybreak feels about forum malcontents trash talking their product

Sounds like rational opinions, not belligerent belittling.

[Psionide]

Instanced EQ, that alone is enough not to try it. If I want an instanced MMO I could go try literally every other garbage MMO that's out there. NM the Krono RMT.

[Psionide]

Originally Posted by Freezi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah fuck instances I'd rather stare at a screenshare for 16 hours for each individual dragon times like 15+ dragons per week that I still want to kill for some reason so I can get better gear on a server where no new content will ever be released.

If you think like this unironically pls seek the help of a mental health professional

Have literally never done that but nice deflection. Yeah man, EQ's system is so messed up, It's almost like it hasn't attracted thousands of people for almost 2 decades, I'm so mentally unstable. It's okay if you want to admit you want/need an easier time getting pixels but don't see here and make it seem like people are crazy for wanting one of the things that made/makes classic EQ so unique and appealing. Nice personal insults tho, that's always the sign of a strong argument [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]