PSA: Shamsade <Dawn Believers> is an EC scammer

[Rysky]

Originally Posted by kelsoider [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is sad. Grouped with this guy in Mistmoore and gave him a lot of eq advice the last few days. Seemed like a true noobish returning player at the time; had a million questions about EQ; but perhaps it was just an ingratiating strategy.
I can tell you that he did ask a lot of questions about making pp; would that he had stuck to my advice and just leveled.
Also, I live on Okinawa so my prime time is 2-7am east coast. Shamsade would be on during the entirety during consecutive days. Therefore I must conclude that he is some sort of batlike creature or on drugs. Might explain a few thing either way.
Btw- SHAMsade- an allusion perhaps?

This is what I've found as solid proof of this scammers identity as to not being the guild leader of the Believers. Allios is usually on from 2PM-10PM est. now I can't say I've been online during the times stated in quoted comment, but I would guarantee that it's not Allios

[Panicsferd]

Originally Posted by Rysky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Although I understand where you are coming from, I do not think that's fair to take the actions of one person, whom belonged to a guild that invites low level players of all races and classes and hold him responsible to the guild name. He has been removed from his tag and we never condone such behavior.

I am an officer of the Believers and I can vouch for Allios, whom I've known for several months now and can say he is a genuine and overall great person! Even if this supposed rumor was true that Shamshade is our leaders alt, why in the hell would he invite his alt into the guild to do his evil doings.

Once again I can speak for Allios when I say the goal of Dawn Believers was to become a massive guild of all levels, with hopes of forming alliances and able to sneak our higher levels into raids while waiting for the rest to catch up so we could begin attempting as a guild.

All that being said I would like to clear Allios or Godsun, or anyone wearing the Beliver tag of this one foul creatures action. Until you prove otherwise I am sticking by my leaders side and backing the guild all the way.

Rysky Business 51 Iksar Necromancer and Officer of Dawn Believers

I guess what is done is done, and to tell you the truth I was kind of thinking of leaving the guild when I reached 46 to join a raiding guild that is casual and ready to raid all ready, but I guess this whole shamsade thing escalated so I decided to part ways sooner then I imagined.

I was probably not going to leave the guild till I was 46+ - I think I actually left when I was still in my hell level at 45, so I guess enjoy the guild and have safe travels.

[Rysky]

Originally Posted by Panicsferd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess what is done is done, and to tell you the truth I was kind of thinking of leaving the guild when I reached 46 to join a raiding guild that is casual and ready to raid all ready, but I guess this whole shamsade thing escalated so I decided to part ways sooner then I imagined.

I was probably not going to leave the guild till I was 46+ - I think I actually left when I was still in my hell level at 45, so I guess enjoy the guild and have safe travels.

Aye, like many others have voiced in the past, sorry we couldn't fulfill your needs. We are trying to partner up with guilds that host open raids to give the players some "new to them content" to experience while we still try to mature internally as a guild and grow as a whole. Good luck to ya! But saying the guild name was tarnished and that's the reason you left is a little harsh, don't ya think?

[indiscriminate_hater]

sucks, but it still boggles my mind how anyone could give over a valuable item without collateral or payment

[Panicsferd]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sucks, but it still boggles my mind how anyone could give over a valuable item without collateral or payment

Same here, I am part of <Dawn Believers> and I never heard anything like this or members that would do something like this, which makes me sick.

But this is like the oldest scam in the books "let me try it on" and then they just take off or log off and you'll never see your item again.

Especially for items that are worth 10k or more you will be at a loss if you would give this item to someone else without payment or collateral.

I did something once myself when I was selling a fashion quest item, but I mainly did it since this certain item had a different look for each race - but the person gave me some legs at the time that was equal in price to what I was selling this fashion quest item for so if I did get scammed I wasn't at a loss. I would myself never give an item to someone for free to just try it on if I didn't get anything in return.

[Sprawlz]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sucks, but it still boggles my mind how anyone could give over a valuable item without collateral or payment

I've done that literally dozens of times for items worth 5k+ and never had an issue until today.

Obviously, this won't happen again, but... isn't it a shame? P99 is a community like no other in the world, and anything or anyone hurting it is bad news for eveyone here.

[welly321]

I heard that Shamsade is actually Allio's (the leader of Dawn Believers) alt.

[tiadashi]

You dont like re-sellers DONT go to EC just avoid it never go there problem solved - You Anti EC people are sad whiners

Then theres the guy who posts about it being an alt of the guild leader really!? Whats with you pathetic people?

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by tiadashi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You dont like re-sellers DONT go to EC just avoid it never go there problem solved - You Anti EC people are sad whiners

Then theres the guy who posts about it being an alt of the guild leader really!? Whats with you pathetic people?

Anti EC people haha, trust me I'm laughing not whining =)

[Spyder73]

I'm always confused when I read how great the community here is. A large portion of the populous are unemployed neckbeards who literally only care about advancing their own needs. Are most people nice to group and chat with? yes - But that is a far cry from some glorious community where nobody needs to lock their doors.

EQ elitism and scamming is however - classic as f#ck

I remember my best friend quiting EQ when his wizard twink lost an Oracle Staff while hunting gnolls in High Pass. Someone he had been grouping with for a few hours asked to try it on and as soon as he got the item he immediate gated and put my buddy on /ignore.