Do you really believe this is a Muslim ban?

[Xaanka]

i think we broke maerilith

[bigjerry]

whoa ur not supposed to use that name it's a power word now

stick w/ megalith it's more accurate also

[R Flair]

Bans the one's trying to come in, and deport the one's already here.

Make it so.

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"The western ideals under attack" is made up, and supported by unsubstantiated claims and hate mongering from the far right and extremists like Bannon as well as the uneducated and ignorant masses who can't even read the constitution or bill of rights or pass an American history course in our low grade very 1040EZ education system.

If anything the lack of people working to better themselves, and understand their rights, and the rights of others, and their history and society are doing everything to undermine "western ideals".

No one is attacking your "ideals". You are eroding them beyond rational application and attacking the very people who would defend your ideals in ignorance.

Western Ideals are incompatible with Islamic ones. That my only point there. Beyond that I think the West has a rather diverse set of understandings on what those ideals mean. And that healthy ^^ Some are more praiseworthy than others, but Islam is incompatible with all of them. That all I saying ^^

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. I believe is why we adamantly separated church and state. I believe forefathers weren't about eugenics or thought control. They were about working side by side with people, and letting them sort out their faith and spirituality in a civil way. I believe our forebears believed in setting an example with their faith and ideology. That converting people with force is impossible.

Child refugees are the perfect group of people to offer freedom to choose something other than Islam. We can't do it by force, but we could remove the pool of people Islamic extremists have to perpetuate the terrorism by offering those children a choice, and giving them a chance to respect Christianity.

Its hard to respect Christianity though, when it's new mouthpiece is Trump and Pence and Bannon.

I'm a Mormon, I find the erosion of people's faith and beliefs insidious. We are destroying ourselves by enacting a culture war and using Muslim refugees as scapegoats.

Interesting point on child refugees ^^ I'm not sure how I feel about that, but while it is wrong to demonize Muslims, admitting them remains a very real threat. It's like admitting people with tuberculosis or hiv. Yeah, it's mean to say no, but they present a danger.

I don't know that converting them to Christianity is the best thing. Just kinda seems odd ^^; but I do understand faith plays a vital role in many people's lives, offering hope and escape from the hardships of life. I just cry and speak to the void ^^

I find it interesting though that you are Mormon, but separate yourself from Christians ^^ Every Mormon I have met consider themselves Christians, much to the displeasure of most non-mormon Christians I've met.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*FISTBUMP*

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...care/#comments

*FISTBUMP*

Love the Washingtonpost for this one, even though I sort of despise their right leaning spins. This is really good blogging here! Great Analysis, spot on, glad to see SOME religious groups do not support this monster blindly.

you amended your johnson

e: melon help

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you amended your johnson

e: melon help

I not touching it...




EDIT

you saying I have talent for emasculating people's? (*^^*)