Necromancer: Race choice?

[thebutthat]

Iksar is always the popular choice for necros because of the regen. But if you've gone without it, you really won't care. Necro's are always leeching life anyway. There's nothing an Iksar necro can do that any other race can't, it just requires an extra cast is all.

[b_rob242]

Originally Posted by thebutthat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar is always the popular choice for necros because of the regen. But if you've gone without it, you really won't care. Necro's are always leeching life anyway. There's nothing an Iksar necro can do that any other race can't, it just requires an extra cast is all.

True! I played a DEF NEC. I would have never noticed. I switched after 16 levels on him bc I took the "Iksar are better" bait. I regret having to start over and waste the time. Hence, the advice. Stick with ERU! If you see Ssessth in-game. HMU for some bone chips or plat. I'm nowhere near rich, but I may have a little bit more plat than a level eight (untwinked) toon has on him.

[PoptartOnRye]

Originally Posted by b_rob242 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True! I played a DEF NEC. I would have never noticed. I switched after 16 levels on him bc I took the "Iksar are better" bait. I regret having to start over and waste the time. Hence, the advice. Stick with ERU! If you see Ssessth in-game. HMU for some bone chips or plat. I'm nowhere near rich, but I may have a little bit more plat than a level eight (untwinked) toon has on him.

If your sig is up to date, then your necro is 44 and doesn't have the 49 Lich spell yet. That spell draws a lot more health than Call of Bones. Also, Iksar regeneration takes off like a rocket post 50, where as before its only of marginal benefit. The difference in regeneration from level 49 to 51 is 6 hp/tick. That's more than adding a Zlandicar's Heart to a non-Iksar race (an item that costs ~150k). Then, at 60 you're looking at an extra 6 on top of that.

I'm not trying to disagree with your point of playing what you want though, that is the most important thing.

On the shaman regeneration front, sure leveling up an untwinked character the Iksar/Troll races have a definite benefit, but if you have the money, a Barbarian/Ogre with Fungi Tunic & staff will have over 90% of the regeneration Troll/Iksar would have with the same gear up until level 50. From then on it tapers off to at worst 78% from levels 55-59. With that level of gear, I really think the Ogre's FSI shines. But again, thats assuming you have lots of money, which not everyone does. I'm just trying to make the argument that FSI is the min/max racial-trait over regeneration, and to think otherwise is to again throw subjective preference into the mix in the same way of picking a not-Iksar necromancer race (which is fine, people should play what they get the most enjoyment from).

[b_rob242]

Poptart, nice info! And yes, sig is current, so 49+ info is something to look forward to! I'm happy with my Iksar. As you can also see by my sig, I've taken a true liking to them. Guess I was just trying to comfort the OP about re-rolling. If he's gonna do it the time is now, while he's not put too much time in.

OP: not sure anyone said it yet, but getting an Iksar to level 8 would not take too long. Bone chip quest, scorpion pincher quest, curscale armor quests all happen in FoB. Good experience for each as well as normal leveling. Lots of friendly passersby in that area to buff and such with Kaesora and EJ so close.

[Rysky]

Shhhhit I'd say go iksar, why? Because I can hold down an extra mob or two in an experience grind where as you other races have to med due to that extra cast. Let me just say, iksar regen gained me few extra go arounds on specter island in the oasis. I was able to sufficiently pull all but one of the eight spawns, due to me saving that 15% mana from that uneeded lifetap. Vampiric curse is all I ever need to stay positive with my call of bones active. I'm just a 43 iksar necro, what do I know.

[thebutthat]

Originally Posted by Rysky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shhhhit I'd say go iksar, why? Because I can hold down an extra mob or two in an experience grind where as you other races have to med due to that extra cast. Let me just say, iksar regen gained me few extra go arounds on specter island in the oasis. I was able to sufficiently pull all but one of the eight spawns, due to me saving that 15% mana from that uneeded lifetap. Vampiric curse is all I ever need to stay positive with my call of bones active. I'm just a 43 iksar necro, what do I know.

At a cost of negative 20% xp. The iksar regen really doesn't start to come into huge play until end game, with the later forms of lich and the iksar regen gets the bonus. Mana becomes damn near irrelevant for all the races for necro in any places your going to solo. Because you're just charming. When boiled down, if you use your tools correctly, all the races will get the job done, without ever running out of mana or hp. Your biggest problem will be screwing up pulls in Howling Stones and catching a bunch of Harmtouchs.

Mana battery for raids is where the regen comes into play. You'll get a few extra twitches per pull because of it.

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by Rysky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shhhhit I'd say go iksar, why? Because I can hold down an extra mob or two in an experience grind where as you other races have to med due to that extra cast. Let me just say, iksar regen gained me few extra go arounds on specter island in the oasis. I was able to sufficiently pull all but one of the eight spawns, due to me saving that 15% mana from that uneeded lifetap. Vampiric curse is all I ever need to stay positive with my call of bones active. I'm just a 43 iksar necro, what do I know.

agree with this, plus i find that as an iksar, i probably die a lot less than other races. Thats just my naive opinion though.

[Gain]

Iksar is the way to go. At lvl 51 I can cast call of bones and go afk and not lose hir points while sitting. The added regen is a very beneficial advantage over the other necro races.

[Troxx]

Iksar race confers an undeniable advantage for the necro class.

Play what you want and what will make you happy, just know that your job as a necro will be a lot easier as a lizard. The biggest drawback relates to merchant options, but with your first skeleton illusion lich this becomes a lot less of a problem.

[Ofaelol]

Troll master race!