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Old 01-13-2017, 05:45 PM
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That's because your approaching the question from a relatively normal perspective.

Consider it this way, imagine your goal is not to equip your toon. Imagine your goal is to block others from getting pixels. That's why one of the themes of the threat is those berating FoH/Venerate with "haha Statue drops were crap".
I think the "haha look what it dropped," is more to trivialize the aggression by emphasizing the insignificance of the loss. It is basically saying, "Yes, you took the statue, but your "victim" was unharmed by the aggression. "
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Old 01-13-2017, 06:09 PM
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That's because your approaching the question from a relatively normal perspective.

Consider it this way, imagine your goal is not to equip your toon. Imagine your goal is to block others from getting pixels. That's why one of the themes of the threat is those berating FoH/Venerate with "haha Statue drops were crap".
Consider Awakened has a lot of members and they have fun clearing content and gearing up their chars and pursuing pixels for their membership. Then approach the question recognizing there is an "opportunity cost" to pursuing anything in P99. Do you want to farm plat or track a mob? Do you want to track and wait for mobs to spawn or do you want to do your own thing (xp, tradeskill, group, whatever). One guild was trying to balance a Plane of Growth clear but also hoped to kill Statue, and AOW. Their course of action was in part dictated by weighing the opportunity cost of pursuing these simultaneous goals.

Knowing Statue dropped dick shows their opportunity cost was a lil bit less and that they're smart as balls and still rocking Essences of Nature and some dope War Helmets.
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:02 AM
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Funniest part of all of this is how Awakened seems to be cozying up to Anonymous.
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:06 AM
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Funniest part of all of this is how Awakened seems to be cozying up to Anonymous.
Maybe that's the new designated feeder guild for them
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:11 AM
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:14 AM
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I dont believe FoH/Ven had any hard feelings about Awakened taking the AoW in the end, but to have Awakened the biggest guild on the server dropping everything that they were doing in PoG and bum rushing their way to kael to deny FoH/Ven a shot at AoW and then proceeding to create this thread just comes to show are.......
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:38 AM
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I dont believe FoH/Ven had any hard feelings about Awakened taking the AoW in the end, but to have Awakened the biggest guild on the server dropping everything that they were doing in PoG and bum rushing their way to kael to deny FoH/Ven a shot at AoW and then proceeding to create this thread just comes to show are.......
Once again we see the "it's never enough" argument. We left Statue uncontested for, I believe, 6 hours. F/V was basically handed an uncontested Statue, but when we came to clean up Avatar, now it's a problem? You waited too long, and couldn't execute the pull. We killed the mob we intended to kill; the mob we put time into tracking.

Also, we didn't create this thread.

Congrats F/V on Statue. If you would like 24 hours to prepare, and an uncontested Avatar hour, my proposed agreement is posted in the raid section. It is still open for any guild/entity.
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Old 01-13-2017, 07:07 PM
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Once again we see the "it's never enough" argument. We left Statue uncontested for, I believe, 6 hours. F/V was basically handed an uncontested Statue, but when we came to clean up Avatar, now it's a problem? You waited too long, and couldn't execute the pull. We killed the mob we intended to kill; the mob we put time into tracking.

Also, we didn't create this thread.

Congrats F/V on Statue. If you would like 24 hours to prepare, and an uncontested Avatar hour, my proposed agreement is posted in the raid section. It is still open for any guild/entity.
You are laboring under the delusion that our intent was to actually kill aow *grin* We will not be signing up for the 24 hour agreement until there is a trak/vp rotation agreement and we are in it.
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Old 01-14-2017, 09:42 AM
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You are laboring under the delusion that our intent was to actually kill aow *grin*
I am not. I was directly replying to the person who complained that it wasn't enough for us to leave Statue, but that we should have not contested Avatar as well. Avatar was our goal, Statue was yours. I keep saying this, but it doesn't seem to register. Congrats on Statue, F/V. Congrats on Avatar, Awakened.

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I sure was but perpetual Velious made me realize that 6 Dragons in VP, from kunark, 5 of which drop shit, aren't worth making my members track more than they do. I'm all for FFA racing, but I have no problem sharing some shit too.
So don't track them. Why do you have to do everything? Just because they are not rotated doesn't mean you have to track them now. Do you track Innoruuk?

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Yea, that's what guilds want to see. Hey, we'll rotate these 4 shit mobs but the other two? Naw.

Great progress, alright.
I guess I can reiterate my "It's never enough" comment. These are 4 mobs in the highest content of Kunark. You think they drop shit, maybe other guilds don't. Clearly they want to rotate the zone, probably due to some of these mobs. Silverwing's PE Hammer, Nexona's Bo Staff, Druushk's SoW Sword...
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Old 01-14-2017, 09:48 AM
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I keep saying this, but it doesn't seem to register.
This is a common theme around these parts.
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