Shocking leaked image shows spirit of compromise on p99 in A/A's absence!

[Erati]

with the raid forces I have seen on display this weekend its crazy that there are not more guilds willing to pick prime time portions of windows and try to lock into some juicy targets.

Most alliances are rolling around with over 120+ people and that's more than enough to make the content trivial - do we really need the content to also be rotated/uncontested?

Seems overkill. If they bring back R/C/FFA - I dont see how that would work with so many entities showing capable of the top tier zone ( ToV ) so most guilds would be in Class C by nature. A Rotated/FFA cycle would have to include A/A in the rotation and I doubt that would make the casuals happy since A/A would gobble their allotted mobs and want timers on these uncontested pops.

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

with the raid forces I have seen on display this weekend its crazy that there are not more guilds willing to pick prime time portions of windows and try to lock into some juicy targets.

Most alliances are rolling around with over 120+ people and that's more than enough to make the content trivial - do we really need the content to also be rotated/uncontested?

Seems overkill. If they bring back R/C/FFA - I dont see how that would work with so many entities showing capable of the top tier zone ( ToV ) so most guilds would be in Class C by nature. A Rotated/FFA cycle would have to include A/A in the rotation and I doubt that would make the casuals happy since A/A would gobble their allotted mobs and want timers on these uncontested pops.

Aftermath/FFA/Awakened/Casual split with no A/A everyone wins, minus ego

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

with the raid forces I have seen on display this weekend its crazy that there are not more guilds willing to pick prime time portions of windows and try to lock into some juicy targets.

Most alliances are rolling around with over 120+ people and that's more than enough to make the content trivial - do we really need the content to also be rotated/uncontested?

This weekend has done a lot to show just how disconnected a/a is from the rest of us. Do you realize that outside of a/a very few people have seen all of these mobs? I dont think you do.

You're seeing these 120+ zerg forces because the content has been monopolized since launch by a handful of players so there's a backed up demand, plus players not in a/a flat out arent as prepared for these encounters. Dont have the gear or the experience. The more the merrier imo as long as the server isnt crashing.

Nobody wants to race for anything. Its awful. How anyone can consider that to be an acceptable final solution to a problem is beyond my comprehension. You want me to stand, looking at a wall, spamming a pet macro, for 3-4 hours, against 10 other people? You think a brand new guild is going to provide a dozen people, working in shifts, to race against you for two months until they learn how to compete?** There is no reward high enough for FTE getters to pay them back for the work they are doing.


**Even if we learn to compete history shows it wont be fair. look back at the past year's raid suspensions. We're competing against people who get suspended several times a year for cheating.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This weekend has done a lot to show just how disconnected a/a is from the rest of us. Do you realize that outside of a/a very few people have seen all of these mobs? I dont think you do.

You're seeing these 120+ zerg forces because the content has been monopolized since launch by a handful of players so there's a backed up demand, plus players not in a/a flat out arent as prepared for these encounters. Dont have the gear or the experience. The more the merrier imo as long as the server isnt crashing.

Nobody wants to race for anything. Its awful. How anyone can consider that to be an acceptable final solution to a problem is beyond my comprehension. You want me to stand, looking at a wall, spamming a pet macro, for 3-4 hours, against 10 other people? You think a brand new guild is going to provide a dozen people, working in shifts, to race against you for two months until they learn how to compete?** There is no reward high enough for FTE getters to pay them back for the work they are doing.


**Even if we learn to compete history shows it wont be fair. look back at the past year's raid suspensions. We're competing against people who get suspended several times a year for cheating.

Kinda ironic since all CSG wanted was to dungeon crawl, they had the opportunity to do it yesterday but even they couldn't get their 120+ people to commit to crawling. Considering that the racing implementation was directly because of CSG bitching about Cory pulling it's kinda funny that even the vocal, yet uninformed, CSG members are still complaining about racing. And you're not competeing, CSG has still never bothered to try and compete lol.

[Mythanor]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda ironic since all CSG wanted was to dungeon crawl, they had the opportunity to do it yesterday but even they couldn't get their 120+ people to commit to crawling. Considering that the racing implementation was directly because of CSG bitching about Cory pulling it's kinda funny that even the vocal, yet uninformed, CSG members are still complaining about racing. And you're not competeing, CSG has still never bothered to try and compete lol.

How convienent of you to forget the deal made with the suspende A/ A to not crawl, and kill ASAP, so not to spread out timers, while moaning about dungeon crawling..... good stuff this, watching A/ A members use every excuse in the book to justify their pathetic chase for pixels.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Mythanor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How convienent of you to forget the deal made with the suspende A/ A to not crawl, and kill ASAP, so not to spread out timers, while moaning about dungeon crawling..... good stuff this, watching A/ A members use every excuse in the book to justify their pathetic chase for pixels.

you would have a point if CSG didnt wipe multiple times to vulak and then decide to skip it until the next day, spreading out the windows. with the 150+ people CSG brought, clearing to their targets in ntov would have taken a few hours which is as long as they spent wiping to vulak anyway.

So you didnt even live up to the agreement to not spread out timers lol

Originally Posted by colicab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely, they are unwilling to play the game the way you guys play because to them, and the server they came from, that behavior is not "classic". You don't have to defend it, there are two sides to the coin and that can be accommodated for with the Class system.

The irony here is that the current racing crap is directly due to CSG complaining about how raiding was being done. Yet now they still arent willing to put forth the effort and compete...

[Breaken]

Originally Posted by Mythanor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How convienent of you to forget the deal made with the suspende A/ A to not crawl, and kill ASAP, so not to spread out timers, while moaning about dungeon crawling..... good stuff this, watching A/ A members use every excuse in the book to justify their pathetic chase for pixels.

I keep seeing this... What agreement? I never requested anything. Who from Awakened agreed you need to kill these mobs in this manner?

Sure, it would have been great if you did, but you didn't, and as far as I know, we didn't request you to.

[RedXIII]

Grow a pair and come play classic contested EQ. Problem solved. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grow a pair and come play classic contested EQ. Problem solved. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you can do that on your rotated FFA week. you can still claim king of the hill then.

[Vallanor]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grow a pair and come play classic contested EQ. Problem solved. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By "grow a pair" you mean "stare at a door for 'x' amount of time" (I'll concede most players aren't sitting there more than 3-4 hours at a time, but it's still an insane practice), and by "classic contested EQ" you mean "not remotely classic contested EQ" right? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]