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[Maner]

Originally Posted by Bigmoneybabybaby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maner. Do you remember Peritus. If so, do you remember a Bard named Sperit

hmm, Sperit seems familiar but not the guild name. I had a paladin with the name Maneranae due to the name generator, jumped guilds a little bit but was in divine prophecy along with harmonium and AV the most on xev

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Bigmoneybabybaby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is actually a serious question of mine since the grey areas are endless.

Yea exploiting what the game isn't meant to do is wrong in the GMs eyes. If you feel innocent you're gonna need a nice rule lawyer and to wait. Sounds sketch. I was always put off of running by the frame rate bug everyone used.

[Morbo the Annihilator]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea exploiting what the game isn't meant to do is wrong in the GMs eyes. If you feel innocent you're gonna need a nice rule lawyer and to wait. Sounds sketch. I was always put off of running by the frame rate bug everyone used.

What the game is "meant" to do, and the player made agreement are two different things.

player-made agreement = FTE foot race, maximum SOW speed.
anything that allows someone to travel at faster-than-sow speed is considered illegal.

things that may be considered against what the game is "meant" to do:
- alt-tabbing to drop frames and increase run speed during de-elevation = travelling faster than SOW.
- strafe running = travelling faster than SOW.
- jumping whilst running = travelling faster than SOW.

if SOW is the maximum allowable speed for an FTE foot race, then strafe running and jumping whilst running must also fall into the category of "travelling faster than SOW".

policing one method (alt-tabbing) and disregarding all other methods just emphasises how grey this grey issue is.

so either burden everyone with iron-gripped, draconian blanket ban of all forms of faster-than-sow travelling, or just accept alt-tabbing as just another quirk of a very old game.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Morbo the Annihilator [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What the game is "meant" to do, and the player made agreement are two different things.

player-made agreement = FTE foot race, maximum SOW speed.
anything that allows someone to travel at faster-than-sow speed is considered illegal.

things that may be considered against what the game is "meant" to do:
- alt-tabbing to drop frames and increase run speed during de-elevation = travelling faster than SOW.
- strafe running = travelling faster than SOW.
- jumping whilst running = travelling faster than SOW.

if SOW is the maximum allowable speed for an FTE foot race, then strafe running and jumping whilst running must also fall into the category of "travelling faster than SOW".

policing one method (alt-tabbing) and disregarding all other methods just emphasises how grey this grey issue is.

so either burden everyone with iron-gripped, draconian blanket ban of all forms of faster-than-sow travelling, or just accept alt-tabbing as just another quirk of a very old game.

Welcome to p99. Where you should consult a GM if you're doing anything remotely sketchy to see if it will get you in trouble rather than just keep exploiting to horde pixels for alt #3. That's where you went wrong. While sirken has a history of doing fly by punishments. I'm certain if you brought it up to him when detoxx asked about stopping it this would of been avoided. That's why I follow snacks. He knows all the nuances and what not to do. Blame AW leadership imo for not looking into it. Blinded by the pixels and sheeple they are ( in my best yoda voice )

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Bigmoneybabybaby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All it literally does it locks it. So you can just steer with your mouse. But soon jumping will be illegal also. #feelsbadforgnomes

Well you can lock strafe without alt+tab. Sounds like you are doing it he hard way.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Bigmoneybabybaby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All it literally does it locks it. So you can just steer with your mouse. But soon jumping will be illegal also. #feelsbadforgnomes

As far as I know you can't do this without Alt+Tab clicking, so illegal. Just use common sense, Sirken has said he's not laying out concrete rules because then people are just going to find some way else to cheat or manipulate said rules or cry, "You never said this was against the rules!!". If it sounds sketchy, don't use it.

In terms of classic, as far as I know, you could never run EQ in Windowed mode throughout Velious and in almost every case of Alt+Tabbing I would go LD. Even in the rare case I didn't crash, it wasn't some insta-click back, had a lot of delay. Ahh the days when I resorted to having a binder with EQ Atlas maps printed out...

[Hevie]

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