Awakened Banned 10 days

[kotton05]

I always thought sirken should of started a post of his own describing each ruling , with the evidence supporting his ruling, that would become a public reference when petitioning / looking to get into the high end raid scene. I mean most court cases are public knowledge after the fact. But then again fuck em big sirks you prolly just don't want that head ache.

[arsenalpow]

It's a bigger headache and shitstorm to deal with it after the fact though.

[Daldaen]

The only way to be caught is if they show you their fraps though... That's the problem. There is no trust between these guilds. They just outright assume the other one will not follow the agreement.

Thus why Aftermath continued to use this. Because they didn't think Awakened would stop. Also why Awakened wouldn't agree to a ceasefire, they didn't believe Aftermath would stop.

[kurtis]

Brutal.

[Erati]

@Cucs

I love the power of hindsight as well, its pretty incredible already knowing what happened then looking back and figuring out how to not arrive at the current present.

Aftermath gets a pass for their use bc their GL was the first to request a ceasefire of an unpolicable tactic so we will wash away all their abusers and the community will act like they never did it because AM gives out some uncontested mobs.

Got it.

No one even cares that the conversation about halting this tactic was pretty recent and after the petition had already been filed. It would have gone a long way to come to us directly with their claim, threaten to petition if we didnt stop THEN tried to get us to agree but that's not how AM rolls ( hats off to the lawyers )

This was a ruse all along to get some logs of the two GLs talking about this ( knowing Breaken wouldnt agree bc you cant police ) all while the petition sat. Cannot be more slimey tbh and even if Breaken said 'sure, we will do what we can' that petition would have still been active and more than likely result in the same raid suspension.

Hippos always gonna crit.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@Cucs

I love the power of hindsight as well, its pretty incredible already knowing what happened then looking back and figuring out how to not arrive at the current present.

Aftermath gets a pass for their use bc their GL was the first to request a ceasefire of an unpolicable tactic so we will wash away all their abusers and the community will act like they never did it because AM gives out some uncontested mobs.

Got it.

No one even cares that the conversation about halting this tactic was pretty recent and after the petition had already been filed. It would have gone a long way to come to us directly with their claim, threaten to petition if we didnt stop THEN tried to get us to agree but that's not how AM rolls ( hats off to the lawyers )

This was a ruse all along to get some logs of the two GLs talking about this ( knowing Breaken wouldnt agree bc you cant police ) all while the petition sat. Cannot be more slimey tbh and even if Breaken said 'sure, we will do what we can' that petition would have still been active and more than likely result in the same raid suspension.

Hippos always gonna crit.

To expand on my grow a pair comment - this isn't hindsight, this is leadership 101.

No one is giving AM a pass, stop trying so fucking hard to be a victim. The cockblock on the agreement to not do it was you guys - not AM. And this "we can't trust them so well maintain a shit raid scene" is a fucking lame dick excuse made by betas who don't let their girlfriends go out with their girlfriends because they "can't know for sure they won't fuck someone else".

[Erati]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one is giving AM a pass, stop trying so fucking hard to be a victim. The cockblock on the agreement to not do it was you guys - not AM.

Your sig is a remarkable depiction of your posting today.

[mefdinkins]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And this "we can't trust them so well maintain a shit raid scene" is a fucking lame dick excuse

Was Lia awarded a Hoshkar staff during the terms of the VP agreement?

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your sig is a remarkable depiction of your posting today.

Slow as fuck at work since we're in hypercare so I can shitpost all day!

Originally Posted by mefdinkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was Lia awarded a Hoshkar staff during the terms of the VP agreement?

What are you even talking about?

Rustle made it clear they would bounce on the agreement if we couldn't get an answer from you guild. After several weeks they got no answer so they left. Then the agreement was immediately put back together once your guild noticed they needed to actually do things.

What's the problem here? What sort of retarded mental gymnastics are you trying to do?

[Erati]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rustle made it clear they would bounce on the agreement if we couldn't get an answer from you guild. After several weeks they got no answer so they left. Then the agreement was immediately put back together once your guild noticed they needed to actually do things.

What's the problem here? What sort of retarded mental gymnastics are you trying to do?

Glossing over the fact that the original agreement was broken by Rustle when you guys wanted a slot not joined with CSG...This again is further evidence why rotations/player agreements are subject to fail bc you have to chase down all these skype paper trails.

Im sure you guys have 'your side' of events and we have ours which becomes this cesspool of skype idiocy that we tried to end with Raid Discussion public agreements but was ignored

Oh well.