awakened gives up 2 vulaks

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Fragged [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys didn't "fuck up", It's not like you accidentally fell with you face down into the keyboard while running out for SoW and by accident it happened to run you all the way to Vulak and FTE him. YOU GOT COUGHT FUCKING STEALING.

And when you were confronted with it you, you told us to fuck off.

One could also view this as tracker FTE, you had a guy beyond the zoneline when the mob spawned tracking it with bind sight as pr your own words, and said guy got FTE on Vulak.

If you get away with conceding two Vulaks that means that a guild can kill a target without following the rules, get the loot and then pass up on the target two times and do it again. Rinse and repeat, easiest way to lock down some Dozes and Vulaks going forward. Best deal ever, get one for every two you pass up. I might just make 3 guilds and just rotate the mobs between myself.

Underrated post.

[Tankdan]

I always laughed at this scenario

>Blatantly violate a Rule
>Ignore other guild, kill your illegal target
>Concede 2 targets.
= Free 1 mob out of 3 without having to put any effort in

As for him jumping the gun, someone yelled "VULAK POP" accidentally and it happened to spawn 3 seconds later?

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Smaller guilds should start doing this kinda stuff. Guarantee yourself 1 out of every 3 spawns. 10% of the effort, 33% of the spawns. Not a bad trade-off.

Right? Stand at Aary steps and have a guildie let you know when everyone starts running. Free 1 out of every 3 Vulak. No hard work.

Suspend these shitheads for continuously pulling this nonsense. Bend the rules as far as they can every week and I can hardly blame them for thinking they can continue to get away with it.

[Teako]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We did not know he fucked up. If Aftermath would stop asking for concessions on every single mob, their requests would have more weight. Unfortunately, we get the most outlandish requests from them, so we have to investigate. With so many mobs in window last night, we could not just hold the pull. For that, we accept our required two mob concession. Obviously, if we knew, we would have taken the single mob concession. To assume otherwise is just trolling.

You're out of your god damn mind lmao. You were 100% fine with cheating until someone showed you the video of you doing it... And then you killed it anyway. Eat the month suspension like a man you panzy.

[dbouya]

I'm a n00b who hasn't ever raided on p99. I only raided 1999-2004 era.

However it seems pretty clear awakened should beg the gm's to delete all the loot from that vulak kill. If they don't manage to have that happen there should be some suspensions. If anything whoever actually cheated that fte needs to be suspended, or guild removed or both, or at least banned from competing for fte on that character ever again.


Aftermath has a good point. You give up two attempts in addition to the loot from the attempt you cheated on. That's what the rules say. Once you have looted an npc it is too late to concede. At that point there is no benefit to admitting your guilt and conceding.

It's like being caught committing a crime. Then saying you'll accept the plea bargin. Even though no one ever offered you a plea bargin because they didn't want to.

Since awakened admitted guilt, but didn't do so in time to get the benefit of confessing early, they should suffer the maximum punishment. There's not even any need for proof anymore, the GM/sirken/guide can simply review the confession. After you confess it's too late to say you're not guilty.

[Teppler]

Never been a part of the raid scene but this scum bag guild was a part of the incident related to why I don't play anymore.

Wish them the worst in the new year.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never been a part of the raid scene but this scum bag guild was a part of the incident related to why I don't play anymore.

Wish them the worst in the new year.

What incident was that?

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We did not know he fucked up. If Aftermath would stop asking for concessions on every single mob, their requests would have more weight. Unfortunately, we get the most outlandish requests from them, so we have to investigate. With so many mobs in window last night, we could not just hold the pull. For that, we accept our required two mob concession. Obviously, if we knew, we would have taken the single mob concession. To assume otherwise is just trolling.

-500 dkp for yourself sir

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We did not know he fucked up. If Aftermath would stop asking for concessions on every single mob, their requests would have more weight. Unfortunately, we get the most outlandish requests from them, so we have to investigate. With so many mobs in window last night, we could not just hold the pull. For that, we accept our required two mob concession. Obviously, if we knew, we would have taken the single mob concession. To assume otherwise is just trolling.

How the fuck can you not know he fucked up? it was right there in front of the fte line you are the biggest moron on the server prob more bigger moron than chest

[Comoc1]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We did not know he fucked up. If Aftermath would stop asking for concessions on every single mob, their requests would have more weight. Unfortunately, we get the most outlandish requests from them, so we have to investigate. With so many mobs in window last night, we could not just hold the pull. For that, we accept our required two mob concession. Obviously, if we knew, we would have taken the single mob concession. To assume otherwise is just trolling.

This is a diversion tactic called "blaming the victim", which is obviously exaggerated in order to persuade others that AW is not in the wrong.

Awakened doesn't care if they're 5 or 500 body lengths over the line.

Seems like just another cut and dry illegal FTE warranting a 10 day + suspension.

- adding to Fragged's list -
H) Running for a low quality target (Ikitar), a better target spawns mid-run (Lady M), and continuing for the better target.