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Old 12-20-2016, 09:13 AM
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:58 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BDBzgHXf64

Well, there's the proof. Black & white, clear as crystal.
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:40 PM
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The solution was implemented. - they wrote up the 'rules', yes.
It was enforced. - yeah sort of. Can't have that same level of enforcement here.
People clearly adhered to it. - this is the part where I think you are at least partially wrong. Some did, some didn't. I clearly remember plenty of people that didn't.

Live, for a while, had a much more energetic and paid CS staff. We do not have that here. We are more vulnerable to people that simply don't give a crap about PnP policies, and without the same kind of enforcement rigor that wore Sony out, we won't get much effect. Plus it's *already* been written up, and here we are talking about how crappy people are behaving. I also don't think you are suggesting anything that will make much of a difference. The enforcement part is what's missing, and people will be people.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:52 PM
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The solution was implemented. - they wrote up the 'rules', yes.
It was enforced. - yeah sort of. Can't have that same level of enforcement here.
People clearly adhered to it. - this is the part where I think you are at least partially wrong. Some did, some didn't. I clearly remember plenty of people that didn't.

Live, for a while, had a much more energetic and paid CS staff. We do not have that here. We are more vulnerable to people that simply don't give a crap about PnP policies, and without the same kind of enforcement rigor that wore Sony out, we won't get much effect. Plus it's *already* been written up, and here we are talking about how crappy people are behaving. I also don't think you are suggesting anything that will make much of a difference. The enforcement part is what's missing, and people will be people.
Solution was implemented - dev post.
Solution was enforced - dev post linked above. Forums posts in which people describe being subject to it, being affected by it negatively or positively.
People clearly adhered to it - again forum post describing (complaining) about having to adhere to it, references to people using it and GM's becoming involved, references by people describing how it now allowed them to get camps / join parties whereas before they couldn't.

You're argument - I clearly remember, I don't think, we are - with zero evidence, zero links, no research.

I'm sorry but your argument is not an argument its an unsubstantiated opinion.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:04 PM
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I'm sorry but your argument is not an argument its an unsubstantiated opinion.
Pot calling kettle black.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:06 PM
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Pot calling kettle black.
Haha you beat me to it
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:17 PM
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Pot calling kettle black.
Evidenciary based statement is something backed up with research producing evidence - I have that.

Unsubstantiated opinion is something stated that has no evidence to back it up and comes purely from the memory or mind of the person making the statement.

They're very different. Much like you and I.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:23 PM
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Evidenciary based statement is something backed up with research producing evidence - I have that.

Unsubstantiated opinion is something stated that has no evidence to back it up and comes purely from the memory or mind of the person making the statement.

They're very different. Much like you and I.
Well sort of. You think you have evidence. But like you say, thinking doesn't make it so.
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Old 12-20-2016, 11:29 PM
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Solution was implemented - dev post.
Solution was enforced - dev post linked above. Forums posts in which people describe being subject to it, being affected by it negatively or positively.
People clearly adhered to it - again forum post describing (complaining) about having to adhere to it, references to people using it and GM's becoming involved, references by people describing how it now allowed them to get camps / join parties whereas before they couldn't.

You're argument - I clearly remember, I don't think, we are - with zero evidence, zero links, no research.

I'm sorry but your argument is not an argument its an unsubstantiated opinion.
Ok, I'm out. There's no point in discussing this with you.
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:48 PM
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