WTB an item? Know what you paying for it.

[Sajan]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's worth 5k-6k. I will take 5.5k for it.

If you came out and said this at first you would have saved yourself a lot of time and headache. Instead, you chose to take a chance to see if you could rip this guy off.

If I'm selling items in the tunnel, I already have a price in mind for my wares and I don't mind putting that price out there first. I'm not much of a haggler though. My prices are generally firm, but not steep and I never have these issues with buyers. Either they go for my price or they don't. You know, just like shopping almost anywhere outside of virtual elf sim.

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another issue I can't stand is the bank run that literally takes 20-30 minutes. The worst thing to hear the guy say when he agrees to buy your item is, "Ok, just got to run to the bank BRB". I instantly think, oh my god, here it goes. 15-30 minutes of wait time.

Maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate here.. But if you didn't have a lot of time couldn't you just meet them at the bank?

All of these problems you're going on about could be fixed by you, but you blame the buyer instead. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Sajan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you came out and said this at first you would have saved yourself a lot of time and headache. Instead, you chose to take a chance to see if you could rip this guy off.

If I'm selling items in the tunnel, I already have a price in mind for my wares and I don't mind putting that price out there first. I'm not much of a haggler though. My prices are generally firm, but not steep and I never have these issues with buyers. Either they go for my price or they don't. You know, just like shopping almost anywhere outside of virtual elf sim.



Maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate here.. But if you didn't have a lot of time couldn't you just meet them at the bank?

All of these problems you're going on about could be fixed by you, but you blame the buyer instead. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If my intention was to rip him off I wouldn't have told him what it was worth and what I would take for it once it was clear he was clueless what the item was worth 10 minutes after we began communicating.

He could have saved me time, by telling me up front that he had no idea what it was worth, and asking me how much I'd take for it, and/or what he was willing to pay for it. He obviously had an idea in his head, or he wouldn't have balked at the price I ended up throwing to him.

It goes both ways. I easily could have lied, and said "oh, it's worth 10k man, I will give you a deal for 8k though!" Just to see if he would do that. I did not do that. That would be trying to rip him off.

[Sajan]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If my intention was to rip him off I wouldn't have told him what it was worth and what I would take for it once it was clear he was clueless what the item was worth 10 minutes after we began communicating.

Generally when you ask someone what they're offering it's not because you are oblivious to an item's worth. It normally means you're waiting for said person to offer you an amount higher than you originally had in mind.

If you can't deal with the mental fortitude that is required for haggling with people who actually go out and play the game instead of tunnelquest, then maybe haggling isn't for you.

I don't mean to come off as an insensitive jerk or a troll, but I've been here for 6 years now and I've never had someone in EC get under my skin so bad that I felt the need to make a rant post about it in Server Chat.

[coki]

Originally Posted by Sajan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Generally when you ask someone what they're offering it's not because you are oblivious to an item's worth. It normally means you're waiting for said person to offer you an amount higher than you originally had in mind.

If you can't deal with the mental fortitude that is required for haggling with people who actually go out and play the game instead of tunnelquest, then maybe haggling isn't for you.

I don't mean to come off as an insensitive jerk or a troll, but I've been here for 6 years now and I've never had someone in EC get under my skin so bad that I felt the need to make a rant post about it in Server Chat.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Sajan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you came out and said this at first you would have saved yourself a lot of time and headache. Instead, you chose to take a chance to see if you could rip this guy off.

If I'm selling items in the tunnel, I already have a price in mind for my wares and I don't mind putting that price out there first. I'm not much of a haggler though. My prices are generally firm, but not steep and I never have these issues with buyers. Either they go for my price or they don't. You know, just like shopping almost anywhere outside of virtual elf sim.



Maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate here.. But if you didn't have a lot of time couldn't you just meet them at the bank?

All of these problems you're going on about could be fixed by you, but you blame the buyer instead. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think you missed the part where OP wasnt advertising. He was responding to a WTB advertisement...

Yeah...

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think you missed the part where OP wasnt advertising. He was responding to a WTB advertisement...

Yeah...

And this too. ^

[Sajan]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think you missed the part where OP wasnt advertising. He was responding to a WTB advertisement...

Yeah...

OP obviously already knew what the item was worth and what he wanted for it. Again, you can save a lot of time and headache simply saying, "Hey, I have xxxxx I'd be willing to sell for <insert highball price here if you're into that thing>" ... and let it go from there.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Sajan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP obviously already knew what the item was worth and what he wanted for it. Again, you can save a lot of time and headache simply saying, "Hey, I have xxxxx I'd be willing to sell for <insert highball price here if you're into that thing>" ... and let it go from there.

Yeah, but most of the time if you are not actively selling an item, you don't really have any interest of parting with it at anything less than a premium. Personally, I am super indecisive and I've no interest I squandering a precious decision to choose a price if I don't need to, but am happy to hear what someone is offering if they are looking for it.

I probably wouldn't get irritated about something like this, but don't think there's any honus on people responding to WTB advertisements.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, but most of the time if you are not actively selling an item, you don't really have any interest of parting with it at anything less than a premium. Personally, I am super indecisive and I've no interest I squandering a precious decision to choose a price if I don't need to, but am happy to hear what someone is offering if they are looking for it.

I probably wouldn't get irritated about something like this, but don't think there's any honus on people responding to WTB advertisements.

I think my irritation came from the fact I had stuff I needed to tend to, and the guy had me stuck as a tell-hostage for way longer than I felt was necessary. I sent him a tell to his initial WTB request, and I expected him to know what he was willing to pay for an item, after all he was the one wanting to buy.

I could have provided him a price up front, he still would have said, "ok let me go check and see how much it's worth on p99". I don't see how people think that telling him up front a price would have made the interaction more smooth.

I am just happy to share this tunnel experience with you forumquesters, and to hear your very different perspectives regarding it! You guys are the best.

[fadetree]

This guy is obviously one of the hated EC 'fat cats'. Wait till Swish gets a hold of you.