P99 Auctions is Closing

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL

More like: P99 is full of assholes, and p99auctions manipulation and ddos victimization reflect this. Also, yours doesn't stink any less than anybody else's despite your apparent belief to the contrary.

got proof?

[Fettsack]

I really liked the site (as one not willing to spend hours sitting at the tunnel). It was a great help for me - sad that it ended this way.

Hopefully the owner and programmer will listen to the guy here who offered help to fix things at the backend.

Big thanks from me to the owner of the site here for all the work you've been put into this and I am sorry to see this project (hopefully not!) stoped.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

got proof?

Hi Filbus. It's good to see you're still kicking around.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL

More like: P99 is full of assholes, and p99auctions manipulation and ddos victimization reflect this. Also, yours doesn't stink any less than anybody else's despite your apparent belief to the contrary.

What nasty things to say. This community has always been one of the kindest, most welcoming and easily penetrated of any mmo. Your assessment is not only untrue, it is unfair. Most players would drop what they were doing, whatever it was, to lend a hand however they could.

Most would (and do) give away items to new beginners rather than spend their hours sullying their souls in the tunnel. And I would say that even within EC, most are simply there to transact by the accepted rules of fair play and move on. They are not there to scour specific log entries or weigh the merit of every damned unrelated auction. They just want to sell their stuff and go back to playing the gam with their friends and family, making new acquaintances and helping one another bash baddies ^^ They are no more to blame for their unwitting exploitation than p99auctions is for its.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This community has always been one of the kindest, most welcoming and easily penetrated of any mmo.

I'm sorry but that's not P99 blue. When I first started playing seriously I began to notice how toxic and vile people were here. Then as time went on it grew on me and it's transformed me from a wide eyed noob to a sinister vile forum quester.

I've met several high level players in my time here that say the same thing about the community here. I wish I had logs for all the conversations with them about the subject. Would be more clear then me trying to explain now.

Then there is the crew of goblins who forum quest. *shivers* I'm not sure how between point A and point B the server picked up so many weirdos. At this point I opened a door I wish I never did and just want a way out.

Everquest is addicting however. Questing is addictive.

Red community is even worse, not going to lie.
And of course there are good people here too.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What nasty things to say. This community has always been one of the kindest, most welcoming and easily penetrated of any mmo. Your assessment is not only untrue, it is unfair. Most players would drop what they were doing, whatever it was, to lend a hand however they could.

Most would (and do) give away items to new beginners rather than spend their hours sullying their souls in the tunnel. And I would say that even within EC, most are simply there to transact by the accepted rules of fair play and move on. They are not there to scour specific log entries or weigh the merit of every damned unrelated auction. They just want to sell their stuff and go back to playing the gam with their friends and family, making new acquaintances and helping one another bash baddies ^^ They are no more to blame for their unwitting exploitation than p99auctions is for its.

All of that is true (except the "nasty" bit), and none of it contradicts my comment. This community has long been well salted with jerks, and you've been around plenty long enough to know that. (And a far few of the jerks are quite friendly and companionable if they happen to consider you a friend/ally, it's a rare personality who is 100% sociopath, even here.)

Resellers were using, and RMTers were abusing, the EC bazaar long before p99auctions was even a vague notion in its programmer's mind. The assholery in EC and in the raid game was well established in EC and throughout the community when I started playing here in the fall of 2011, and by all reports then it was not a recent development.

Your rude comments about p99auctions in this and other threads are completely unwarranted.

Thou protesteth overmuch, m'lady.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd hardly call that rampant manipulation. There's a good chance the people doing that - if they even were, I've yet to see an actual example - are the same people RMTing and flooding the site with data because their tunnelquest game is suffering.

People saying the AH is a net harm versus a net good has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

Personally I would say the pros are about even with the cons concerning P99 auction coming down.

I see the good things, but also recognize the bad things that came with it. Basically it will not hurt me or help me that the site is coming down.

The only thing that sucks about it coming down is that it was destroyed by DDOS-type stuff.

That indicates that more was involved than simple EC nerds trying to make an extra few hundred plats more on an item.

To me this indicates that real money was being affected in some manner, so some higher tier elf sim nerds decided to use more drastic measures to topple P99 auctions.

[kotton05]

Had someone try to tell me my dragon hero bracer was worth 500pp because of this site.

But on the other hand I loved this site since I could hunt down sellers and buyers then negotiate since I knew some prices were askew. Gonna miss this resource.

[paulgiamatti]

I mean, that's what price averaging is: people pushing and pulling prices to what they think the item is or want the item to be valued at. No one is forcing anyone to read the price averages - no one is deeming the site an authority on prices. And if it is, that's because it's accurate. You guys sitting here waxing conspiratorial about this big AH price mafia is just hilarious.

My experience has been the absolute, unequivocal opposite - because of the AH I spent less time in EC, I sold more stuff with less effort, and I dealt with less hagglers. In fact, the general tone in the tunnel as of late seems more friendly than I've ever seen it.

Maybe the AH doesn't suit your tunnelstyle. Maybe it's polarizing in some way - maybe it caters to a certain kind of tunneler and frustrates others. Either way, I have nothing but contempt for people saying it's detrimental to the server. That's a level of paranoia and masochism that goes far beyond saying it's imperfect.

[demokatt]

It shouldn't be so hard to have one client running on a computer constantly feeding auction logs to the webserver? It doesn't have to be people attributing, instead setup a single computer feeding the website. This should be easy to do without ever letting evil people visiting the website be able to find out the ipadress of where the feeding client is?