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[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thanks for italicizing the part that you made up

what i actually said is intervening in foreigners' affairs by force of arms is a transgression regardless of intentions and deserves recourse as a matter of self defense

you are literally a globalist. alex jones shakes his head at you.

damn this edit lucid af

[big_ole_jpn]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hair-brained

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going to call it now. Trump is going to be forced into further aggressive posturing once he learns what is at stake, and I guess at that point he will become a "globalist" in your eyes too. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're voting for Hillary, right? Bush sure is and he seems like your man.

I agree that it's very likely Don will continue neocon policy and prove your call correct but at least he sorta claims he won't.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're voting for Hillary, right? Bush sure is and he seems like your man.

I agree that it's very likely Don will continue neocon policy and prove your call correct but at least he sorta claims he won't.

Sorry that I upset your belief system and that I don't fit in your box.

There is nothing neocon about Trump, there is just more going on than your perfect cut and dry conspiracy theory accounts for.

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[Lune]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only one bringing the goodguy/badguy dichotomy to this conversation is you mein goi

why it is good they are supporting Syria? the globalist faction destabilizing Syria and using US air power to help ISIS gain victories wants chaos in Syria, the highly publicized brutal slaughter of innocents, ISIS propaganda etc to drive American public opinion into justifying a "humanitarian" invasion during the next administration. Obviously Russia is simply resisting the expansion of the US sphere of influence into their own, not doing something because it is right or wrong (yikes), but in this case the Russkie goal of preventing an American invasion aligns with that of Americans who don't want to see US military assets sucked into another quagmire predicated on lies to enrich war profiteer traitors and foreigners.

This is a clever way to look at it.

You're making R Flair look like a fucking dunce in this thread and it's wonderful.

However, I don't think it's accurate to cast the USA as cultivating ISIS victories or benefiting strategically from ISIS in any big-picture way. ISIS is an immense force for instability across the entire region, and instability and unpredictability like that are bad for business. For example, tens of thousands of refugees floating to Italy from the ruins of Libya contributes to the instability of the European economy, whose crash would be devastating to the US, including the US elite.

It's also a stretch to claim this administration was able to plan or mastermind the current trajectory of things in Syria. If that were the case, you wouldn't have had Obama threatening Assad over the use of chemical weapons and then completely reneging on it. That was a blunder no matter how you look at it. Many knew the factions that were responsible for the insurgency in Iraq (many of the fighters came in from Syria) would go out of control once we left, but I don't think anybody predicted that they would come up with something like ISIS that has mass appeal to Muslims.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a clever way to look at it.

You're making R Flair look like a fucking dunce in this thread and it's wonderful.

However, I don't think it's accurate to cast the USA as cultivating ISIS victories or benefiting strategically from ISIS in any big-picture way. ISIS is an immense force for instability across the entire region, and instability and unpredictability like that are bad for business. For example, tens of thousands of refugees floating to Italy from the ruins of Libya contributes to the instability of the European economy, whose crash would be devastating to the US, including the US elite.

It's also a stretch to claim this administration was able to plan or mastermind the current trajectory of things in Syria. If that were the case, you wouldn't have had Obama threatening Assad over the use of chemical weapons and then completely reneging on it. That was a blunder no matter how you look at it. Many knew the factions that were responsible for the insurgency in Iraq (many of the fighters came in from Syria) would go out of control once we left, but I don't think anybody predicted that they would come up with something like ISIS that has mass appeal to Muslims.

I like how you claimed I was a dunce, but then came forth with yet another logical assertion which only proves my point: that it isn't as simple as folks would like to believe.

Its ok not to know. I admit much of what I've said is based on collective info from all sides of the argument. Its just simple logic that none of the theories put forth even approach what constitutes a solid explanation for the things taking place.

Most of all what I cannot understand is the sudden sick adoration of Russia. A comments section on an infowars video reads like a pro-fascist circle-jerk lubricated by Russian propaganda. Its disgusting.

Don't people realize that Trump never intended to suggest that Russia was good in any way, but merely that Putin was working in his country's interests from their worldview and that America's leader should do the same?

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of all what I cannot understand is the sudden sick adoration of Russia. A comments section on an infowars video reads like a pro-fascist circle-jerk lubricated by Russian propaganda. Its disgusting.

Don't people realize that Trump never intended to suggest that Russia was good in any way, but merely that Putin was working in his country's interests from their worldview and that America's leader should do the same?

Weak speaker. Sounds like a fake bumbling fat ass. I could do better.

No wonder we have to nuthug Russia.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Originally Posted by R Flair

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Cringed at this guy going back and feverishly editing his posts 20 minutes later.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cringed at this guy going back and feverishly editing his posts 20 minutes later.

giggled and smiled hard. lol

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cringed at this guy going back and feverishly editing his posts 20 minutes later.

Ya editing a post is real crazy man. Adding additional information is truly shameful.

could have just added that bit at the end to a new post but im no double posting scum