UNICEF Seeks $ 115,000,000 To Sustain Misery

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

........this...........is...........so...........c ute

flattery will get you nowhere ^.~v

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon

literally kill the poor because i cannot understand happiness without money

[maskedmelon]

People who are happy are not miserable ^^ If you subscribe to liberalism/libertarianism, then people ought to be free to live as they choose even if that means being miserable. I see it as inhumane though, especially when the misery is at least in part a result of outside forces.

At the same time, allowing those people to proliferate is immoral because of the threat their proliferation represents to humanity both in diluting the mean and in chaos and destruction when they finally do lash out at the wretchedness of their circumstance.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who are happy are not miserable ^^ If you subscribe to liberalism/libertarianism, then people ought to be free to live as they choose even if that means being miserable. I see it as inhumane though, especially when the misery is at least in part a result of outside forces.

At the same time, allowing those people to proliferate is immoral because of the threat their proliferation represents to humanity both in diluting the mean and in chaos and destruction when they finally do lash out at the wretchedness of their circumstance.

Gotta love conditioned generalizations.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotta love conditioned generalizations.

I'm not suggesting all poor people are miserable. Pokesan took the discussion in that direction.

Tell me, Ald, are you happy when you've not eaten all day? How about for three days? A week? Not knowing when you will eat next?

Is it nice to impose this sort of condition in people who are unable to care for themselves because contributions do not always meet the demands of nature (famine, disease, etc)?


Or were you alluding to something else? Liberalism/libertarianism?

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not suggesting all poor people are miserable. Pokesan took the discussion in that direction.

Tell me, Ald, are you happy when you've not eaten all day? How about for three days? A week? Not knowing when you will eat next?

Is it nice to impose this sort of condition in people who are unable to care for themselves because contributions do not always meet the demands of nature (famine, disease, etc)?


Or were you alluding to something else? Liberalism/libertarianism?

I think you don't know what you're talking about which is cute.

[Pokesan]

I reckon those miserable folks would be a smidge happier being alive than with your plan.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I reckon those miserable folks would be a smidge happier being alive than with your plan.

Does that smidge of happiness entitle them to propagate misery? Because so long as they are reasonably healthy, they'll introduce children into the state of "a smidge happier than dead" and the number will grow.

Have to correct the problem rather than sustaining it by placating one's conscience. If you don't support active intervention (not sure I do, don't really want to think about it and don't need to because it is unlikely to ever happen), at least stop perpetuating it. If you have the means to lift one or more from that state and set them on a path to success, then by all means do it ^^

[Pokesan]

ponder resource consumption and the context of your complaint

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ponder resource consumption and the context of your complaint

That's my point the vast majority of people are unwilling to make the sacrfice necessary to effect change and instead continue to placate their conscience by sustaining the condition with meager contribution to ineffective aid programs because they are equally unwilling to accept the alternative.

If anyone actually cared, they would be bringing these people into their homes, feeding and educating them so that they can join productive society. Instead, they stuff a couple of bucks in the Salvation Army can at Christmas or slip a 20 to the guy holding a cardboard sign, or write a check to Food for the Poor, or vote for tax appropriations for foreign aid and are happy that they are doing what they can to make a difference, when in fact all they are doing is sustaining those conditions.