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Old 10-01-2016, 03:14 AM
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Ufomammut- Idolum (full album)

Electric Wizard-Dopethrone

^theyre trying really hard to be sabbath, but at least they do it well
Getting it's own post.

Electric Wizard is a combination of doom, stoner and sludge metal. Ufomammut (the album that I heard anyway) is pretty much the same.

Doom metal is sometimes used as an umbrella term and then it will include stoner and sludge as well as traditional doom metal. A shitload of Sabbath worship but Blue Cheer shouldn't be understated.

I'll make a post about a certain subgenre of doom somewhere today. Might be some stuff there that you like.
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GWAR falls into its own category. We all agreed on that?
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:35 PM
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GWAR falls into its own category. We all agreed on that?
Unanimously.

In the words of the late Oderus Urungus:

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Old 10-01-2016, 04:25 AM
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There's a reason most new music sux.

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Of course modern pop sux by far, all written by about the same seven or so writers, and dumbed down more every year. But most everything in the modern rock scene? meh.. there must be some way outta here said the joker to the thief.
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:08 AM
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Im going to have to agree with Daywolf here.

Metal and Punk can be very similar and often are. But that is because they are both based off the same thing. However, at least in the beginning, Punk took a very different path away from Hard Rock than Metal did.

Punk was born out of rebellion. The whole idea of Punk was to put emphasis on the message. To do so, the music was stripped down to its simplest elements and played loud and poorly. In fact, it was not considered Punk to even know how to play the instrument (from a traditional learned experience). The idea was to be as raw as possible so that the real star of the show were the words and not the music.

Metal took a different path. Metal is extremely meticulous in its musical production. Favoring complexity in the composition over the lyrical portion of the song. Metal is a showcase of talent. The overwhelming theme is to showoff how well the instruments can be played.

This is what separates Metal and Punk. They are very similar in that they both are heavily influenced by the Hard Rock era. But, they were influenced in a very different way. Punk is not Metal. In fact, most Punk Rockers in the early days would probably kick your ass for even thinking they sound like metal. They were very against the style of Metal because it was too practiced thus losing the heart of what Rock and Roll was about. Metal was the opposite of that. They chose to be the best musically and technically as their homage to Rock and Roll.
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:46 AM
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Punk was born out of rebellion. The whole idea of Punk was to put emphasis on the message. To do so, the music was stripped down to its simplest elements and played loud and poorly. In fact, it was not considered Punk to even know how to play the instrument (from a traditional learned experience). The idea was to be as raw as possible so that the real star of the show were the words and not the music.

Metal took a different path. Metal is extremely meticulous in its musical production. Favoring complexity in the composition over the lyrical portion of the song. Metal is a showcase of talent. The overwhelming theme is to showoff how well the instruments can be played.

This is what separates Metal and Punk. They are very similar in that they both are heavily influenced by the Hard Rock era. But, they were influenced in a very different way. Punk is not Metal. In fact, most Punk Rockers in the early days would probably kick your ass for even thinking they sound like metal. They were very against the style of Metal because it was too practiced thus losing the heart of what Rock and Roll was about. Metal was the opposite of that. They chose to be the best musically and technically as their homage to Rock and Roll.
What you say here has its merits. Nonetheless, what separates metal from glam rock (i.e. Motley Crue, Ratt, Poison and other 80s wankery) is the lyrical content. If the song is about sex, drugs and the rock&roll lifestyle, it's not metal. I mean, other than the Immigrant Song, 95% of Led Zeppelin's lyrical content was sex & drugs. Black Sabbath had dark lyrics, and it made all the difference. Plus, nothing sounded raw like THIS back in 1970. It's hard to believe this is freaking 46 years old.
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:18 AM
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What you say here has its merits. Nonetheless, what separates metal from glam rock (i.e. Motley Crue, Ratt, Poison and other 80s wankery) is the lyrical content. If the song is about sex, drugs and the rock&roll lifestyle, it's not metal. I mean, other than the Immigrant Song, 95% of Led Zeppelin's lyrical content was sex & drugs. Black Sabbath had dark lyrics, and it made all the difference. Plus, nothing sounded raw like THIS back in 1970. It's hard to believe this is freaking 46 years old.
Don't get my wrong. By no means do I mean the lyrics of metal songs dont have merit. But, the lyrics and how they are presented are done so musically. In Punk, the lyrics are more akin to spoken word with very little thought to the overall musical composition.

War Pigs is a great example of Metal. The guitar is presented almost like a second voice in the band. This is especially true of the solo at the end of the piece. It's almost like another verse of the song with riffs and licks instead of words. This is a common occurrence in Metal of the time.
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