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Old 03-13-2011, 04:03 AM
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:23 AM
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I can see how it would be annoying, but Beta has been up for what? a couple of months or so(not counting the times it was offline)? The average population was single digits to 20 people on a good night. I figure the choice was either deal with it as is and release a buggy as hell kunark, which im sure would create more server downtime without a beta server as back up to get your fix, or force people to beta now. No one should be shocked that we pretty much forced their hand, unless you JUST started.

On the testers side, it could have been made more melee/newbie iksar friendly(translocaters!) earlier instead of pushing it on people 2 weeks before tentative release.

Either way, maybe more people will be on beta now that they've got a taste for kunark, and more bugs will be reported/fixed.

Also Hobby, no one takes a dwarf paladin seriously...NO ONE!
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Old 03-13-2011, 10:54 AM
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I am all for testing and far from ungratefull. I would have preferred to be on live progressing out of 30 but Kunark in my opinion has some issues that i saw. It was hard as hell getting some actual testing done.

The part that is now frustrating is that the weekend is over and i will barely get another chance to play before kunark. The other part that is frustrating is that hardly no one was testing. The point was to post your findings and when you do... crickets. In the end people were pushed to play on a new server and i doubt there were more than 10 issues brought forward.

You cannot force people to play and test but you can intice them to do so. Those who find actaully problems should be awarded... if that was the case youd see a higher population on beta. The reason people play betas is to get in early. Getting in early on content almost 10 years old that is well documented has no reward outside of something new for the evening that will be erased in a few weeks. There is no point to play there at the moment than work at finding bugs. Use the carrot and not the stick.

As for me personally, i have concerns about Kunark's spell resist rate and how bad the nerf is. I suspect they will go live. I do not look forward to Kunark anymore. I now have to hope that when Kunark is released, i am not playing a class that has been gimped in an effort to remain "Historical". I would hope that while the goal is to remain true to the game, all mistakes do not need to be duplicated.

Anyhow, enough of my ramblings.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:23 AM
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People are/were kidding themselves if they ever thought "mandatory" and someones free time ever went well together, they don't have to have the server up, but it goes both directions and it's naive to expect people to jump for joy when someone puts something like this together on a weekend with no warning or eta for it to go back to normal.

I have no problem helping beta test, but all this "people suck because they aren't happy about testing" flys in the face of psychology 101. You want people to beta test, schedule a block of time several days in advance, with everything laid out...ie time will start, time will end and clearly stated objectives. You still won't get 700 people in but I bet you would get more then 200 and I know you would get less upset people.

Only suggestions.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:23 AM
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You do not have to be 50 or 60 to help test, nor have any extensive knowledge of kunark. There are things that are obviously wrong, such as "hey that mob just ran throw 20 walls to hit me" or "this supposed named has not spawned in 20 cycles....".

http://eqmacwiki.com/eqatlas/atlas

Big help for knowing locations / a geneal map for named.

We do not expect you to know that "hey there are only 6 skeletons here, there should be 18". All we ask are for people to report on what they know and what they feel.
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:10 AM
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"mandatory beta" is kind of a silly term. What's mandatory about it? A person doesn't have to play on the server just because another one is down. Personally, I'm playing Rift. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


A better way of putting it probably should be simply "beta testers needed".
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Old 03-10-2012, 05:30 AM
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