P99 Green: The way I see it.

[entruil]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are tons of reasons to list and they've all been said so many times. The game has nothing left in it to play for as a classic PvE version. Everything has long been figured out, the environment is very artificial, and the combat mechanics are extremely outdated and don't require skill. The whole game is nothing but standing around in line or doing a tedious repetitive task. Anything you do on Blue server is nothing but a boring waste of time, to try and get meaningless pixels.

PvP is the ONLY thing available that actually adds meaning and a dynamic element to the game. It makes people think more, consider their surroundings more, and ultimately need to have more skill. It makes the game world more like Everquest is actually supposed to be - immersive with unknown danger lurking around every corner. Contesting raid targets, doing any PvE content actually, becomes 100% more interesting. There is immediate, deadly competition and people need to gear themselves more for PvP.

it was there all along... insert game here... idea of burnt...

[Sillyturtle]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are tons of reasons to list and they've all been said so many times. The game has nothing left in it to play for as a classic PvE version. Everything has long been figured out, the environment is very artificial, and the combat mechanics are extremely outdated and don't require skill. The whole game is nothing but standing around in line or doing a tedious repetitive task. Anything you do on Blue server is nothing but a boring waste of time, to try and get meaningless pixels.

PvP is the ONLY thing available that actually adds meaning and a dynamic element to the game. It makes people think more, consider their surroundings more, and ultimately need to have more skill. It makes the game world more like Everquest is actually supposed to be - immersive with unknown danger lurking around every corner. Contesting raid targets, doing any PvE content actually, becomes 100% more interesting. There is immediate, deadly competition and people need to gear themselves more for PvP.

It is only boring meaningless and outdated if you have done it before multiple times. Most people haven't. I certainly haven't. P99 is my first time enjoying Everquest.

I think you're very biased. At least you certainly appear that way with your adamant assertion that PvP is the only worthwhile thing in EQ.

It might be that way for you, but it definitely isn't for the majority. We know this to be a FACT due to how tiny the Red 99 population is.

[LordRayken]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are tons of reasons to list and they've all been said so many times. The game has nothing left in it to play for as a classic PvE version. Everything has long been figured out, the environment is very artificial, and the combat mechanics are extremely outdated and don't require skill. The whole game is nothing but standing around in line or doing a tedious repetitive task. Anything you do on Blue server is nothing but a boring waste of time, to try and get meaningless pixels.

PvP is the ONLY thing available that actually adds meaning and a dynamic element to the game. It makes people think more, consider their surroundings more, and ultimately need to have more skill. It makes the game world more like Everquest is actually supposed to be - immersive with unknown danger lurking around every corner. Contesting raid targets, doing any PvE content actually, becomes 100% more interesting. There is immediate, deadly competition and people need to gear themselves more for PvP.

I've seen some jaded people here, who like to use terms like "arbitrary" and apparently attack the entire core of EverQuest.

You could literally say what you said about any video game that's been out for a certain period of time.

I wonder why people go back and play Mario Bros, or any games they've already beaten before?

You're hilarious, man. These kind of extreme viewpoints that negate themselves are crazy to hold. You fumble when trying to explain why PvP is good after damning EverQuest's combat mechanics and calling the game outdated.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by LordRayken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wonder why people go back and play Mario Bros, or any games they've already beaten before?

If people go back and play games it's because they are fun. PvE classic-coded Everquest in this modern age is not. Particularly the end-game.

Originally Posted by Sillyturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is only boring meaningless and outdated if you have done it before multiple times. Most people haven't. I certainly haven't. P99 is my first time enjoying Everquest.

It doesn't matter if you haven't done it before, the game is not Everquest. Everything is on a wiki. The mudflation is crazy. The population is totally different. You're not getting the real experience. It's like playing a game with a cheat code enabled the whole time, except not even very fun in this case. People keep chasing the carrot because they think suddenly something cool will happen if they keep at it, but nothing cool is going to happen. Feel free, spend your life trying to get max gear on a PvE server that is more like a factory than a game. In the end you'll look back and realize what an empty pursuit it was and how much time you wasted.

[NegaStoat]

I have no interest in playing on current P1999 due to the game's current state with plat, raiding, the incredibly HUGE span of time between Kunark ending and Velious starting, Chardok AoE's, etc.

I'm a player that checks back every so often for news on the new server. There are many like me. It was previously mentioned on a Sirken stream that current Blue would be finished and left running as a pristine museum piece of work, and the new server might have small changes made to it that would make life easier for the server staff in dealing with players, disputes, and general bullcrap behavior.

I'm all for it if it happens. I'm certain that the staff has learned MANY hard lessons about EQ and the current player base. I'd be hellishly interested in what a 'revised' server offering might entail.

[Sorn]

Originally Posted by NegaStoat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was previously mentioned on a Sirken stream that current Blue would be finished and left running as a pristine museum piece of work, and the new server might have small changes made to it that would make life easier for the server staff in dealing with players, disputes, and general bullcrap behavior.

Current blue is a beta test of the real Project 1999, where dev fixes bugs and makes sure every single official change is connected to an era so the patches that changed gameplay during the targeted time period will happen automatically and everything is complete recreation of EverQuest from launch to just before Luclin.

The recycle server people talk about is going to be Project 1999 as envisioned by the project founders and dev team. That is the pristine museum piece. We're just the experimental test subjects. :P

That said, research thoroughly and bug report all the things!

[Izmael]

An idea for Green99 would be: make it super hard until it's merged.

1. Every mob summons
2. Every mob hits for 3x his dmg on Blue
3. You can never resist a mob's spell
4. Every mob's run speed is 3x its speed on Blue


If people want to farm some extra manastones or Guises, they will have to earn it.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If people go back and play games it's because they are fun. PvE classic-coded Everquest in this modern age is not. Particularly the end-game.



It doesn't matter if you haven't done it before, the game is not Everquest. Everything is on a wiki. The mudflation is crazy. The population is totally different. You're not getting the real experience. It's like playing a game with a cheat code enabled the whole time, except not even very fun in this case. People keep chasing the carrot because they think suddenly something cool will happen if they keep at it, but nothing cool is going to happen. Feel free, spend your life trying to get max gear on a PvE server that is more like a factory than a game. In the end you'll look back and realize what an empty pursuit it was and how much time you wasted.

I bet you're fun at parties.

[LordRayken]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If people go back and play games it's because they are fun. PvE classic-coded Everquest in this modern age is not. Particularly the end-game.



It doesn't matter if you haven't done it before, the game is not Everquest. Everything is on a wiki. The mudflation is crazy. The population is totally different. You're not getting the real experience. It's like playing a game with a cheat code enabled the whole time, except not even very fun in this case. People keep chasing the carrot because they think suddenly something cool will happen if they keep at it, but nothing cool is going to happen. Feel free, spend your life trying to get max gear on a PvE server that is more like a factory than a game. In the end you'll look back and realize what an empty pursuit it was and how much time you wasted.

This really hateful outlook is pointless to hold. You're just breaking things down to their most basic formula.

Every single video game in the history of mankind is about
Collecting X
Going to Y
Defeating Z

You can literally break down every game if you want, and use the same logic. Every video game is a factory.

Your reductionist philosophy is pretty nonsensical.

"I know, I'll come to a community of people playing this game, and insult everything about it."

Enjoy Red.

[Va1entines]

I feel casuals want a environment that they will fair to them, but that will never happen on classic everquest. You can create a new server every month... and sry casuals you will never be the top teir you strive for. You are awarded based soley on time served.