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Old 08-22-2016, 11:17 PM
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War is unlikely. Claims to land are simply not made anymore, outside of the South China Sea and the USSR.

The imperialism that was the driving force behind world war is largely over, as of the last administration we are more in line with countries like Germany and the Netherlands.

Unless we are going to fight over legitimate claims to land (South China Sea, USSR territories) I fail to see how world war is possible?

Israel? They will be wiped off the map by 2070 as Sam Hyde told a TED talk.
Now touching back on this, you do realize those territories are in dispute, right? And not just those, but NK/SK, Japan, Australia (China still wants), Philippines, most of the middle-east, Europe is being invaded (the slow blade penetrates the shield), all the slaughter that has happened in Africa. Oh India/Pakistan, US/Mexico, Iran/Iraq (well was already given to them) the list can keep going, just off the top of my head real quick not even touching on South America.

Now if [most] any one of these were to heat up, the US would likely deal with it. Prob is we don't have the military to deal with a multi-front war, apart from nuking it. Heck, they have our fighting force wearing red high heals walking around for rape awareness while gutting all the veteran leadership and installing PC hacks. But we are not lacking territory to dispute, by far. But as it stands, it's about economic warfare, espionage, and especially proxy-wars. Even cyber warfare, of which we are about to lose as soon as we hand the internet over to Russia... and I wonder how much the Clinton Foundation made from that one. Yeah when I say Russia I mean UN, but the UN just does what Russian wants.

Likely one day you'll wake up and see many if not most of those places with troops advancing, when it becomes a true shooting war. The US will be in disarray, you might even wake up to gunfire or explosions as sleeper cells are flipped on. You might not even know what's going on for days unless you had some radios stashed inside some shielding, and not speaking of FM music box. By the time you ran out of food and water, most people are already out on the street moving like zombies. The govt won't be there for handouts, but to round you up, just like they did during Katrina with grabbing guns. There will be no help, just like 0bama went golfing during this flood going on right now, and Grandma Hillary sleeps.

No, they won't nuke us (apart from EMP's) most likely, we'll kill ourselves in a matter of weeks. They got us all divided, out for ourselves or our skin color. This is by design, dude. China want's their land here. The world want's our farms and oil and as part of the North American trade block for slave labor. imo likely scenario, only my brief mention of it for forum readability sake. Is Nuclear War Impossible? Rare link, AJ in the flesh, but a good report, no rantings, he behaves [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for 2070, meh. More like 2017-2024 there abouts. btw Germany has one of the most un-free media in the world, completely scripted with no room for backtalk in any form. You're usage of "imperialism" is usually used as an idealistic hate slap against the US, not sure of your context there.

Oh yeah, as far as our farmland, then maybe not. Our farmlands are seriously contaminated, thanks to genetically modified crops which is banned in other countries like Russia. Might be worth burning too, not sure.
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Old 08-20-2016, 06:10 AM
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I just hope we hear about his response rather than see it. This administration is treading on dangerous ground pushing pieces around over in east europe and testing shit that breaks nato accords.
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Old 08-20-2016, 07:52 AM
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Remember:

Its not IF Iran will develop nuclear ICBMs. Its not IF North Korea will successfully develop nuclear ICBMs.

Its now a question of WHEN they will have them developed. Surely in our lifetime they will, at which point all bets are off. Not to mention non-State terrorist entities getting their hands on something similar.
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Old 08-20-2016, 07:28 PM
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Someone is thoroughly detached from reality if they don't think there could be another WW.
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Old 08-20-2016, 07:32 PM
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I think the idea is that the Emperor's meta-national structure has evolved to the point that unchecked warfare between valued slave colonies is impossible. Sounds a little like defeatism, or hubris if it were coming from Zog himself's mouth. I'd say highly unlikely in the near future, but not impossible, and thinking on a more geological type time scale almost inevitable as technological developments poke holes in and test the current slave grid.
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I think the idea is that the Emperor's meta-national structure has evolved to the point that unchecked warfare between valued slave colonies is impossible. Sounds a little like defeatism, or hubris if it were coming from Zog himself's mouth. I'd say highly unlikely in the near future, but not impossible, and thinking on a more geological type time scale almost inevitable as technological developments poke holes in and test the current slave grid.
Well even MAD was MAD. There were instances where NATO vs USSR nearly did launch. But on your technological point, in technology we trust. WWIII is winnable under the right circumstances, certainly! And I mean with using nukes, too. All the "certain destruction" propaganda was just to promote the weakening of the world powers, primarily the US. In doing so, well is setting the stage for nuclear tactical strikes to actually occur, and on purpose. Well hey, we trust our anti-missile and satellite technology to shield us from an incoming attack. Russia too has been modernizing for the very same thing, 0bama and HRC gave them the technology to do that a few years back. That along with money, which HRC happily got a return into the Clinton Foundation for doing so.

Meanwhile at the time, 0bama was purging our military of capable leaders as he formed it into something other than it was. This whole thing stinks of rotten fish to the core.
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Russians are so butthurt by the development of increasingly effective missile defense systems that they are developing secret weapons like the Status-6 nuclear torpedo designed to be guided to the coastline by an autonomous stealth drone submarine at 100 knots, and detonated to contaminate coastlines or coastal cities with radiation. It's basically a dirty bomb designed to ensure MAD stays MAD even if the DoD figures out how to consistently shoot down Russian missiles.

Basically given the fact that humanity knows how to use nuclear weapons now, it's only a matter of time until the correct circumstances converge and we use them--whether that's in 100 years or 10,000.

Anyway the near future of WMDs lies in undeclared economic warfare, such as bio-weapons genetically engineered to kill crops, or non-lethal yet incurable viruses and protozoa like epstein-barr, herpes simplex or toxoplasma that can systematically infect a population, cause chronic fatigue syndrome and sap its productivity, run up healthcare costs, etc, while maintaining plausible deniability. Especially if there is asymmetry in medical or biological capability between the two rivals. Imagine if we did to China's rice or Russia's wheat what the potato blight did to Ireland, or vice versa.
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Old 08-20-2016, 08:24 PM
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Russians are so butthurt by the development of increasingly effective missile defense systems that they are developing secret weapons like the Status-6 nuclear torpedo designed to be guided to the coastline by an autonomous stealth drone submarine at 100 knots, and detonated to contaminate coastlines or coastal cities with radiation. It's basically a dirty bomb designed to ensure MAD stays MAD even if the DoD figures out how to consistently shoot down Russian missiles.
that's some strangelove shit right there

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or non-lethal yet incurable viruses and protozoa like epstein-barr, herpes simplex or toxoplasma that can systematically infect a population, cause chronic fatigue syndrome and sap its productivity, run up healthcare costs, etc, while maintaining plausible deniability. Especially if there is asymmetry in medical or biological capability between the two rivals. Imagine if we did to China's rice or Russia's wheat what the potato blight did to Ireland, or vice versa.
Good post.

I got hit with EBV at a really young age (I think EBV is less damaging to an older person as far as the possibility of permanent effects, but Im not sure its been 10 years since I've researched it) and its always uphill but its manageable without drugs now.

Tramadol absolutely obliterated my fatigue (I guess its commonly abused in Egypt for fatigue specifically by cab drivers and other long boring jobs where its difficult to stay alert, saw an article in the Economist on its use and prevalence in the Middle East) like nothing else has ever done. And it wasn't the opioid agonist at all, because I was on PM for years at the time so that side of the drug can be ruled out.

Incredibly "on-demand" type of thing. Take it whenever you needed some extra clean energy that was guaranteed no side effects as long as you used it infrequently.

No matter what type of day I had, I could ALWAYS hit the gym at night if I took Tramadol earlier in the day. Hard to let go of something so functionally useful.

Hard to put into words how fucking incredibly amazing it was, I have never met a drug that had such a functionally useful profile. (Again, key word no sides as long as used responsibly) Amphetamine salts? No. SSRI's? No. Etc you get the idea. I have experience enough to say that Tramadol is more of a wonder drug than it gets credit for, and that class of drugs probably should be studied (its an atypical drug with atypical activity).
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Good post.

I got hit with EBV at a really young age (I think EBV is less damaging to an older person as far as the possibility of permanent effects, but Im not sure its been 10 years since I've researched it) and its always uphill but its manageable without drugs now.

Tramadol absolutely obliterated my fatigue (I guess its commonly abused in Egypt for fatigue specifically by cab drivers and other long boring jobs where its difficult to stay alert, saw an article in the Economist on its use and prevalence in the Middle East) like nothing else has ever done. And it wasn't the opioid agonist at all, because I was on PM for years at the time so that side of the drug can be ruled out.

Incredibly "on-demand" type of thing. Take it whenever you needed some extra clean energy that was guaranteed no side effects as long as you used it infrequently.

No matter what type of day I had, I could ALWAYS hit the gym at night if I took Tramadol earlier in the day. Hard to let go of something so functionally useful.

Hard to put into words how fucking incredibly amazing it was, I have never met a drug that had such a functionally useful profile. (Again, key word no sides as long as used responsibly) Amphetamine salts? No. SSRI's? No. Etc you get the idea. I have experience enough to say that Tramadol is more of a wonder drug than it gets credit for, and that class of drugs probably should be studied (its an atypical drug with atypical activity).
try oxy boi
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