Hillary = Huxley's Nightmare, Trump = Orwell's Paradise

[snergle]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are obviously informed. Tell us about the backers that Donald and Hillary have in common.

donald trump. check mate athiests

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by snergle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

donald trump. check mate athiests

That's disinformation. I dug up the official record and posted it months back here in the Cruz vs. Trump debates with Blitzers. There were two donations to Hillary, the first like in the $1k range, then another that was a little more but returned. Likely reason, her campaign hit him up for a donation, thinking big bucks from a billionaire. lol a shame check the first one. Tried again, asking for a bigger donation, but got nothing like they wanted so they refunded.

[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are obviously informed. Tell us about the backers that Donald and Hillary have in common.

Corporate banks, hence my criticism of change.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Corporate banks, hence my criticism of change.

That's nuts. Those were business loans, and all paid back, a very expected practice in real estate. They get loans based on having the money already, or on existing collateral, it builds business confidence, credit rating, just like how you would do if (well in the old days) when trying to build a good credit line for getting a good house mortgage. You keep all your money in your sock, do ya? Live in a cardboard box?

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Corporate banks, hence my criticism of change.

Surely as well informed as you are, you can provide the names of said banks and the amounts they provided him with.

[Trollhide]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Corporate banks, hence my criticism of change.

Ah these must be the same corporate banks that have blacklisted Trump from borrowing any money

for being too good of a businessman

[BardPop]

Hilary is crooked and corrupt, trump is ambiguous and hasn't really laid down his plans yet. Even though I was kid when Bill served his terms, I still remember people saying that the Clinton were both huge liars and the way it's panned out Hilary seems to fit the mold. I'm not really enthusiastic about either of them, but what I am enthusiastic about is the power of the people to hold whoever gets elected president accountable for each and every single thing they do. America is almost 400 million strong against a very small number of Clinton or Trump people, the people CAN and SHOULD hold whoever is sworn into office accountable for their choices and not let them run this country into the ground, so even if I don't have much faith in either Clinton or Trump hopefully America will progress regardless of whoever wins-If Clinton wins I hope she's not a complete nut, and if Trump wins I hope he tries to do something to fix all the problems related to debt and war this country has accumulated.

Fun fact, we haven't been debt free since the 19th century, this country has massive problems with not paying back our creditors whether it's ourselves or foreign nations, we need to just pay the over $1 trillion debt we currently owe and be done with it. God knows we spend enough on the military to have that kind of money laying around. We currently spend over 600 billion on the military each year, we could probably cut that down a little bit so we can pay off our debt. Over a trillion dollars debt is generally bad.

[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by BardPop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fun fact, we haven't been debt free since the 19th century, this country has massive problems with not paying back our creditors whether it's ourselves or foreign nations, we need to just pay the over $1 trillion debt we currently owe and be done with it. God knows we spend enough on the military to have that kind of money laying around. We currently spend over 600 billion on the military each year, we could probably cut that down a little bit so we can pay off our debt. Over a trillion dollars debt is generally bad.

You can't be debt free in a debt-based economy. All the money in supply was created out of loans (debt); loans that accumulate interest which has to be paid.

money supply = total loans

money supply < total loans and their interest

Someone will have to default on their loans by design.

[AzzarTheGod]

we don't have a wall against Canada because its a successful 1st world nation-state.

you don't have Africa-grade governments (3rd world shit-tier neighbors) and not build a fucking wall. It just doesn't make any sense you morons.

Americans deserve better than to be at the mercy of the Mexican justice system and Mexican policing system. Period.

Western Europe doesn't need any wall because they don't have this problem. Its all 1st world neighbors with 1st world nation-states in the EU.

[Trollhide]

or we could always revise our draconian drug policy and corresponding privatized for-profit prison system that enabled the cartels to thrive and turned Mexico into the third-world shithole it is

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