NASA scientist claims conclusive evidence of alien life.(aka no God). - Page 3

Uaellaen · #1 03-08-2011, 10:10 AM

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All should be grateful that there are religions for people who need them. Try to imagine what all these people would be doing if they didn't have anything of the sort to keep themselves occupied with.... ... .. .[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have an idea ... camp nameds!

Plumb · #2 03-08-2011, 10:22 AM

I just realized that this was probably the wrong place to post that... lol

Uaellaen · #3 03-06-2011, 10:47 AM

first of all ... i do not belive in "god" as diety ... but who is to say that the whole universe isn't some experiment from someone? like maybe we are a giant ant farm!

so since we dont know, why not stop fighting and invest that energy into finding out!

Supreme · #4 03-06-2011, 11:33 AM

think outside the box.

nemethor · #5 03-06-2011, 01:58 PM

Chtulu, check out Socrate's PD (priority of definition) thesis here.

What it boils down to is that you can't have a debate about something if you're using the same word to describe two different things. Arguments driven by equivocation are a waste of time.

The same God that you don't believe, I also don't believe in.

nemethor · #6 03-06-2011, 02:17 PM

To bring the point home, here's a stab at my definition of God, though its difficult to pin-point.

God is whatever force created the universe and determined its properties. The fundamental (and perhaps only) property of this force is that its beyond our comprehension. The universe is unfathomably vast and our understanding of it is infinitesimally small. What is our relationship to the unknown, the unfathomable? Do we reject the unknown and restrict ourselves to the meager limits of the demonstrable which is a kind of hegemony, a kind of internal and external violence? Or do we seek a relationship with the unknown, relate to that which lies beyond the strict boundaries of our limited reason, which serves its function but is limited in scope?

Ultimately, this is a very personal choice. I respect your decision to not to have a relationship with the unfathomable. I was a virulent atheist for a long time, until I realized that I rejected something based on misinformation. Just try to have an open mind is what I'm trying to say, and ask the right questions--if you want to learn.

gnomishfirework · #7 03-10-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nemethor

To bring the point home, here's a stab at my definition of God, though its difficult to pin-point.

God is whatever force created the universe and determined its properties. The fundamental (and perhaps only) property of this force is that its beyond our comprehension. The universe is unfathomably vast and our understanding of it is infinitesimally small. What is our relationship to the unknown, the unfathomable? Do we reject the unknown and restrict ourselves to the meager limits of the demonstrable which is a kind of hegemony, a kind of internal and external violence? Or do we seek a relationship with the unknown, relate to that which lies beyond the strict boundaries of our limited reason, which serves its function but is limited in scope?

Ultimately, this is a very personal choice. I respect your decision to not to have a relationship with the unfathomable. I was a virulent atheist for a long time, until I realized that I rejected something based on misinformation. Just try to have an open mind is what I'm trying to say, and ask the right questions--if you want to learn.

Lol. What misinformation?

There is no information to suggest a creator or creative force or whatever bullshit description you want to give.

If there is information that suggest such a thing that we have yet to discover or understand, as far as we are concerned there is no information.

I do not think life is anything but an amazing event that happened. I refuse to acknowledge any view based on speculation or wishful thinking.

I will not respect such belief as well. It is no more deserving of respect than the belief that carries exist. I'd be pleased and amazed to find it true, but at the moment there isn't any rational reason to.

Seaweedpimp · #8 03-06-2011, 03:46 PM

You stupid motherfucker, do you know how many might believe in A god much less the christain god? Prolly 1/2.

We all know hes not real, and for some of us he is. Who gives a fuck. Who gives a fuck. Who gives a fucking fuck.

Nooooboooodddyyyyy

Saskrotch · #9 03-06-2011, 04:16 PM

Just be an atheist and quit trying to deconvert people. I'm an atheist and I don't spend my time trying to convince people there is no god. It doesn't benefit me in anyway if I can deconvert people.

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gnomishfirework · #10 03-10-2011, 08:40 AM

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Just be an atheist and quit trying to deconvert people. I'm an atheist and I don't spend my time trying to convince people there is no god. It doesn't benefit me in anyway if I can deconvert people.

Say that to someone living in a Muslim country facing death or someone in the united states where religious had shaped legislature.