Munich Mall Shooting -

[Tecmos Deception]

Jarn, weren't the Nazis pro gun control? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And your argument that because a gun was effective at killing a lot of people by someone without training to use it is not a good one. The guys who killed thousands with a couple of airplanes on 9/11 didn't have much training in piloting airplanes, but they used them to incredibly deadly effect. Does that mean that passenger planes are built for killing?

Guns can kill, but it's not their only constructive use. Even the military have historically preferred to wound rather than kill, right? Wounding an enemy is -1 fighter and -X more people who are dragging him to safety, caring for him, etc. A dead enemy is just -1 fighter. And with self-defense it is about protecting yourself/your family/whatever, not about killing. If someone dies, so be it, they made their bed and they'll lay in it. But the goal isn't to kill, the goal is to stop.

It's asinine of you to try to compare the use of firearms for self defense to the fucking retard shooting up a mall. His gun didn't shoot anyone, HE did.


But I guess we could just make guns illegal right. That'll get them at least some of them off the streets right? Just like the US did with illegal drugs? Lol.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jarn, weren't the Nazis pro gun control? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a common myth actually. the (((Wiemar Republic))) limited firearm ownership after ww1. Hitler greatly increased firearm ownership for German citizens. Only jews and some other subversives were prevented from owning guns.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jarn, weren't the Nazis pro gun control? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

guilty by association ..?

Hitler was vegan, does that make all vegan blood-thirsty antisemites ?

You can do better, Tecmos

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

guilty by association ..?

Hitler was vegan, does that make all vegan blood-thirsty antisemites ?

You can do better, Tecmos

You missed it.

2nd amendment can only be altered by another amendment to the US constitution. Guns are going to stay legal in the US until that happens. In the mean time, there's a certain amount of responsibility that comes with having the freedom to posess and use a firearm that is the duty of the user to understand and operate within the framework of the applicable laws. One person cannot logically be the defining example of a society (basic generalization fallacy).

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You missed it.

2nd amendment can only be altered by another amendment to the US constitution. Guns are going to stay legal in the US until that happens. In the mean time, there's a certain amount of responsibility that comes with having the freedom to posess and use a firearm that is the duty of the user to understand and operate within the framework of the applicable laws. One person cannot logically be the defining example of a society (basic generalization fallacy).

Yeah, i agree. You have a certain responsibility when you have a car to drive safely, for you and for the other people on the road. Which is why you have to respect the different rules that applies. Why do you accept such rules for driving a car and no rules for owning a weapon ?

I can't drive a car if i'm blind, but i can own a firearm. If you think that's logic, i'm sorry but i can't do anything for you.

One person cannot logically be the defining example of a society (basic generalization fallacy).

If only certain people here would get that basic 1st grade level logic. But no, blacks are violent, jews are rich, latinos are rapists and muslims are terrorists.. etc etc etc

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't drive a car if i'm blind, but i can own a firearm

You're gonna call people out on unsound *logic" but you can't even get your own example right? A blind man can own a car. And a blind man would get in huge legal trouble for using a gun improperly... just like if he drove a car improperly.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have a certain responsibility when you have a car to drive safely, for you and for the other people on the road. Which is why you have to respect the different rules that applies. Why do you accept such rules for driving a car and no rules for owning a weapon ?

I can't drive a car if i'm blind, but i can own a firearm. If you think that's logic, i'm sorry but i can't do anything for you.

Screw the ww2 discussions, I really want to know if Jarn actually thought a blind dude was allowed to walk around town firing off a gun in the US.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

guilty by association ..?

Hitler was vegan, does that make all vegan blood-thirsty antisemites ?

You can do better, Tecmos

i should add that nazis were bad not because they were pro gun control (i dont even know if they were and i dont really care), but because they were putting all their issues, problem, and misery on the back on one specific group: the jews. Who would do that in the 21st century, am i right ..?

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i should add that nazis were bad not because they were pro gun control (i dont even know if they were and i dont really care), but because they were putting all their issues, problem, and misery on the back on one specific group: the jews. Who would do that in the 21st century, am i right ..?

Nah they also blamed the French as well. You were stealing the shit out of their coal and some other resources and tried to get them to pay back 250 billion (blaming them solely for ww1)that the Germans are still repaying to this day.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah they also blamed the French as well. You were stealing the shit out of their coal and some other resources and tried to get them to pay back 250 billion (blaming them solely for ww1)that the Germans are still repaying to this day.

Nope, germans are done paying it since 2010.

That said, i agree that the versailles treaty was one of the biggest mistake ever. I wonder why you blame the french, since it was signed by the allies, including the united states, and also the french, british, italian, serbian..