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Old 07-10-2016, 03:51 PM
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realistically, France and UK are the only two countries in the EU that have any power projection. UK is on their way out... do you really think France can protect the entirety of Europe on their own?
I never said that, i was answering the other moron who apparently thought we had sticks and stones for weapons.
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I never said that, i was answering the other moron who apparently thought we had sticks and stones for weapons.
I don't care what happens in France. We saw your cops get mowed down on TV just like ours. You guys have done some great shit and had some great leaders like Napoleon and de Gaulle but that's gone unless you change(your choice). Why do you care about how we use our guns here?
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I don't care what happens in France. We saw your cops get mowed down on TV just like ours. You guys have done some great shit and had some great leaders like Napoleon and de Gaulle but that's gone unless you change(your choice). Why do you care about how we use our guns here?
Napolean destroyed the Sphinx, the arguably the greatest creation of mankind by one of the greatest civilizations of mankind bar none.

(fuck Semitic Jews who would prefer you forget about Egypt and think otherwise)

Therefore, Napolean is not worthy of mention-- he is just as bad as the Zionists.
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Old 07-10-2016, 04:22 PM
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Napolean destroyed the Sphinx, the arguably the greatest creation of mankind by one of the greatest civilizations of mankind bar none.

(fuck Semitic Jews who would prefer you forget about Egypt and think otherwise)

Therefore, Napolean is not worthy of mention-- he is just as bad as the Zionists.
That was a Jew lie to slander Napoleon.

Sketches of the Sphinx by the Dane Frederic Louis Norden were created in 1737 and published in 1755, well before the era of Napoleon. However, these drawings illustrate the Sphinx without a nose and clearly contradicts the legend. So what really happened?

http://www.smithsonianjourneys.org/b...ose-180950757/
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:13 PM
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I never said that, i was answering the other moron who apparently thought we had sticks and stones for weapons.
Does it matter what weapons you have when French people are using them? When was the last time France won a military encounter with . . . anyone?
  • France was kicked out of Cambodia by the Viet Cong (Dien Bien Phu being the crowning disaster).
  • France was conquered by the Germans in WW II in a mere month after years preparing for war by building the Maginot Line.
  • France kind of didn't lose vs Germany in WW I, but Britain (naval blockade) and the US (additional ground troops that countered Germany's new tactics in 1917) actually did the heavy lifting.
  • France was soundly beaten by Prussia in 1870, losing two provinces
  • France fought Austria to a draw in 1859 (the battle was such a disaster for both sides that it led to the creation of the Red Cross)
  • Napoleon was a superb general and won many battles, yet in the end France was utterly conquered by the British/Prussian alliance at Waterloo.
  • Louis XIV didn't exactly win the War of Spanish Succession; his grandson was forced to forfeit his claim to the crown of France and he was beaten by Marlborough at Blenheim among others.
  • France was partially conquered by the English for most of the Middle Ages, with famous victories at Crecy and Agincourt.

I guess you have to go back to William the Conquerer and the invasion of England (1050 AD) and Charles Martel halting the Moors at Poitiers (750 AD) for real French military success.
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  • Napoleon was a superb general and won many battles, yet in the end France was utterly conquered by the British/Prussian alliance at Waterloo.
Nonsense. Summing up Napoleonic France's legacy like this is like saying Nazi Germany had no military success because in the end it was eventually defeated and conquered.

Every country has a litany of embarrassing military incompetence, including the United States. Germany, in spite of probably being the greatest military culture of modern times (laid the foundational doctrine for the modern US military), ended up on the losing side of two world wars and lost half its territory. At least the French were smart enough diplomatically to end up on the winning side each time.
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Does it matter what weapons you have when French people are using them? When was the last time France won a military encounter with . . . anyone?
  • France was kicked out of Cambodia by the Viet Cong (Dien Bien Phu being the crowning disaster).
  • France was conquered by the Germans in WW II in a mere month after years preparing for war by building the Maginot Line.
  • France kind of didn't lose vs Germany in WW I, but Britain (naval blockade) and the US (additional ground troops that countered Germany's new tactics in 1917) actually did the heavy lifting.
  • France was soundly beaten by Prussia in 1870, losing two provinces
  • France fought Austria to a draw in 1859 (the battle was such a disaster for both sides that it led to the creation of the Red Cross)
  • Napoleon was a superb general and won many battles, yet in the end France was utterly conquered by the British/Prussian alliance at Waterloo.
  • Louis XIV didn't exactly win the War of Spanish Succession; his grandson was forced to forfeit his claim to the crown of France and he was beaten by Marlborough at Blenheim among others.
  • France was partially conquered by the English for most of the Middle Ages, with famous victories at Crecy and Agincourt.

I guess you have to go back to William the Conquerer and the invasion of England (1050 AD) and Charles Martel halting the Moors at Poitiers (750 AD) for real French military success.
oh damn, you're really good at copypasta, are you ? if half of this were true, France wouldn't exist today. try to think on your own for once:

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http://www.militaryfactory.com/battl..._victories.asp

..and for the lulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] : https://warisboring.com/the-french-s...2ca#.7o2z2ts0d + http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...ier-group.html

i understand you guys are fed since your younger age by hollywood that USA is the greatest and mightiest and saves the world every day, but real world is not that simple.. damn i even remember that movie where USA decipher enigma during WWII and saves the world.. when it's actually the brits that deciphered enigma. Hell even the next Battlefield set in world war one won't even have the french or russian.. Hell i even had someone told me that USA won WW2 on their own. That's just downright disrespectful to the russians that actually have just as many credit than the US, not even mentioning the many many nationalities including australians, canadians, new zealander and yes, even free french.. that died in the normandy landings. Makes you wonder who's rewriting history, right ? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:53 PM
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Every country has a litany of embarrassing military incompetence, including the United States.
Sure, but we at least win SOME of the time. In fact, the US has won (French and Indian War (again, everyone beats the French), War of Independence, War of 1812, Mexican War, Spanish-American War, WW 1, WW 2, Korea, Iraq 1) a lot more than we have lost (Vietnam, Iraq 2 (nominally a win, but c'mon)).

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At least the French were smart enough diplomatically to end up on the winning side each time.
We can agree the French are successful diplomats! Talleyrand sounds like a great guy to have dinner with.

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oh damn, you're really good at copypasta, are you ?
You take that back you French whore! Every word of that came from my personal brain.

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]if half of this were true, France wouldn't exist today.
All of it is true you tool. In your long ragepost you failed to point out a single error.

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i understand you guys are fed since your younger age by hollywood that USA is the greatest and mightiest and saves the world every day, but real world is not that simple.
You can argue about the relative contributions of the US, UK, and USSR vs Nazi Germany. What you can't argue is that France got slapped like a redheaded stepchild.
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