smoking age is 21 now in California - Page 2

MrSparkle001 · #2 06-23-2016, 01:29 AM

Make smoking illegal entirely. The world will burn but at least we won't have to put up with nasty cigarettes and shit.

Daywolf · #3 06-23-2016, 01:41 AM

Calif, where you cant ride you damn hog w/o a helmet b/c the 19yo daycare worker is indisposed wiping the butts of 30 other 4yo's. F U Terminator, hope you get 2 flats on the carpool near your mansion in IDAHO (where it's F the helmet law and you're F'ing fine with that!).

Cecily · #4 06-23-2016, 02:26 AM

Legal age doesn't mean much when they get you hooked at 13.

Chaboo_Cleric · #5 06-23-2016, 02:48 AM

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Legal age doesn't mean much when they get you hooked at 13.

It's a given right to do whatever we want to ourselves. Raising ages on things is a controversy amongst people who don't give a damn because of their own personal views. Freedom is freedom. You are and adult at 18 not 21. This 21 for alcohol and tobacco is stupid. We can thank lobbyists like M.A.D.D for the 21 age for drinking. They had road funding etc sneaked into the bill to prevent states from lowering the age ala through the fed stupid stupid stupid.

Csihar · #6 06-23-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a given right to do whatever we want to ourselves. Raising ages on things is a controversy amongst people who don't give a damn because of their own personal views. Freedom is freedom. You are and adult at 18 not 21. This 21 for alcohol and tobacco is stupid. We can thank lobbyists like M.A.D.D for the 21 age for drinking. They had road funding etc sneaked into the bill to prevent states from lowering the age ala through the fed stupid stupid stupid.

It's not as simple as an Ayn Rand novel. You're not dealing with super logical rational beings, you're dealing with human beings. The fact that young children see adults with cigarettes manipulates their perception of what's "normal" (and subconsciously what's acceptable and good).

We may be intelligent self-aware creatures but $9.99 instead of $10 exists because our brains are incredibly fallible. People who study sociology go into advertising. Stores are set up in a certain way to increase purchases. If it really were as simple as free individuals freely doing business then all of that stuff wouldn't work. Cigarette companies weaseled their way into society and now cigarettes are a permanent fixture. They self-advertise.

Ignore politics, morals and economics. Just look at human psychology. The fact that cigarettes and alcohol are in our faces every day impedes our freedom. If you don't understand that then you don't understand how human beings function. The laws (ideally of course) offer a sort of balance. Again: it's not an Ayn Rand novel and our decision making process is very much subconscious.

Not saying I necessarily agree with the laws by the way.

Daywolf · #7 06-23-2016, 03:00 AM

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Legal age doesn't mean much when they get you hooked at 13.

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I didn't start smoking until 15 (no one ever denied me a purchase). 7 years later I switched to spit tobacco, saving my lungs. Still do it off and on, oh well. I'm a victim of marketing propaganda by the left, flesh is weak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
My WWII gen parents smoked, I hated it. Weird, eh? My Grandfather liked pipes and cigars, more my style(WWI gen). Just smoked a cigar 20m ago, good stuff! Chocolate swihser sweet. I think the daycare generation is more fixated on pot though, something that the baby boomer grandparents were more attune too and the baby boomer generation contracted from their grandparents onto their Gen Y (why) offspring over the Gen-X parents. You should listen to gen-Xers though, we're pretty damn smart and have alot in common with our WWII grandparents... even if we don't care [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ...or they, my grandparent avoided the WWI propaganda like the plague and just focused on making America great again! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
TRUMP 2016!
And Hillary for Prison 2016

Cecily · #8 06-23-2016, 02:54 AM

Hell I agree. Pass out smokes to 10 year olds if they want em. Because freedom.

Chaboo_Cleric · #9 06-23-2016, 02:56 AM

18 is classified as an adult. Not your simplistic ideology on the way you raised your kids pal

Chaboo_Cleric · #10 06-23-2016, 03:02 AM

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18 is classified as an adult. Not your simplistic ideology on the way you raised your kids pal

Again learn to read. I'm sure you spent tons of times interviewing the intelligence in 18 year olds. I stand by what I said, judge it how you want, your personal views on what classifies as an adult holds no bearing in what I said.