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Old 06-15-2016, 12:53 PM
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I originally made my necromancer out of nostalgia and 'missed chances' from playing old retail and always being curious about the class. My intent was to take it to where I could use the 49 pet and Splurt, use it as a farming character, and just enjoy it casually. For my purposes, getting a CoS along the way wasn't a consideration (although I probably should have as I had plenty of time before the nerf hit as an investment).

If my previous post downplayed the importance of the item, that wasn't my intention. Anyone playing a Necromancer that will ever even remotely consider splitting mobs on a pull using Feign Death, either for solo or for group use, would always in every case be better off having a CoS. It honestly does add a (small) extra dimension to the class, and anyone playing a Monk would KILL to have access to it. If you were in EC right now and patiently waited until two or three sellers of the pre nerf were advertising against each other during prime time, you could probably score one for a 7-8k offer "all plat, right now". If you play the character more than casually, you'd be an idiot not to.
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:32 PM
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I originally made my necromancer out of nostalgia and 'missed chances' from playing old retail and always being curious about the class. My intent was to take it to where I could use the 49 pet and Splurt, use it as a farming character, and just enjoy it casually. For my purposes, getting a CoS along the way wasn't a consideration (although I probably should have as I had plenty of time before the nerf hit as an investment).

If my previous post downplayed the importance of the item, that wasn't my intention. Anyone playing a Necromancer that will ever even remotely consider splitting mobs on a pull using Feign Death, either for solo or for group use, would always in every case be better off having a CoS. It honestly does add a (small) extra dimension to the class, and anyone playing a Monk would KILL to have access to it. If you were in EC right now and patiently waited until two or three sellers of the pre nerf were advertising against each other during prime time, you could probably score one for a 7-8k offer "all plat, right now". If you play the character more than casually, you'd be an idiot not to.

unless you are slumming in a very low level zone, you cant use it for pulling because of the hate list wipe chance. Good god, quit saying this crap people. It's like you copy and pasted people sposts from 13 years ago before the hate wipe nerf on FD. Beginning to wonder if 90% of the people posting in this thread ever even played a necro over level 30. Sound like a bunch of noobs, necro or otherwise.
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Old 06-16-2016, 07:41 PM
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DMN didn't understand the mechanics of the instant invis w/ feign, or the mechanics of how instant invisbility actually works with a character in motion. He also didn't understand it was an inventory clickable item, and honestly thought it would take up the head slot for its use.

Confirmed troll, so I'll use his words to describe the situation.
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Sound like I'm a noob, necro or otherwise.
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:14 PM
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Lol do you people realize that you can spam the CoS while running in a KoS place and never lose invis?

And that this is an ability only matched by rogues and bards?
hey look the same guy spamming the same dumb garbage. how many circlets you got on mules, shiller?


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DMN didn't understand the mechanics of the instant invis w/ feign, or the mechanics of how instant invisbility actually works with a character in motion. He also didn't understand it was an inventory clickable item, and honestly thought it would take up the head slot for its use.

Confirmed troll, so I'll use his words to describe the situation.
Aggro will not be wiped, it will reaggro if the hate list was not wiped when you next break invisibility.
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:03 PM
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I find this topic fascinating because there's a distinct chance that DMN isn't trolling and is just being genuinely dumb, in which case he is a one-in-a-million occurrence of such quality retardation, at least on these forums, and deserves a lot more love.
Have you heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect? Highly skilled persons underestimate their competence and fail to realise what is easy for them may be difficult for others (and vice-versa).

Clearly there is an inability of one side to understand the competence of the other.

DMN is correct, ANY kind of invis spell will break charm/kill summoned pets.
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:34 PM
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Old 06-16-2016, 05:08 AM
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CoS is amazing. Would pay 50k if I had to. Would not pay 50k for beads.
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Old 06-16-2016, 05:54 AM
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CoS is amazing. Would pay 50k if I had to. Would not pay 50k for beads.
50k to save you from a couple seconds of cast time and pittance of mana while taking up your second best gear slot?

I guess you'd pay 50k for a teleport, then, ya?
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Old 06-16-2016, 03:54 PM
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50k to save you from a couple seconds of cast time and pittance of mana while taking up your second best gear slot?

I guess you'd pay 50k for a teleport, then, ya?
Maybe to the moon, sure.

I know you're a bit of a troll and all, but Gather Shadows is 5 secs, and CoS is castable from inventory, didnt you know that? No self respecting necro actually wears it except on encounters that require poison/disease or perhaps fashion quest. Has a funny look.

Cos has saved my life more times than I can remember. In situations where I would have died had I tried to cast the spell Gather Shadows.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:13 AM
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50k to save you from a couple seconds of cast time and pittance of mana while taking up your second best gear slot?

I guess you'd pay 50k for a teleport, then, ya?
Lol you don't have to wear it. It clicks from the inventory like jboots.

Have you ever owned one? Or just bashing out of a reaction formation?
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