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Old 02-24-2011, 09:06 AM
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Man. I'm sure in any given circumstance a douche bag can be a nice person and a nice person can seem a douche bag.
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:13 AM
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Opinions by their very nature are neither "right" nor "wrong".
It is my opinion that these types of threads are...
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Old 02-24-2011, 10:02 AM
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I believe I died in SRO on a Sand giant last Feb at around level 21, took me about 8 months to get up to the point where I could solo the AC camp, but I submit that this camp was in fact mine from Feb 2010 to present and anybody who has gotten Jboots there since then is a campstealing douchbag. Please hand me all your 5kpps.

Sucks you died, very noob to not bind in SRO. You were not even in zone, let alone at camp, therefor not your camp anymore. Also your very decision to post this in a R&F forum, rather than a) seek resolution via /petition if you genuinely felt you were entitled to the camp or b) make any attempt to mediate the situation with an officer of the guild involved, brings into question in my mind your entire "sad bumbling enchanter" act.

Everyone else on their high horses is just bored and looking to stir shit, I certainly am paying no attention to it!

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Old 02-24-2011, 10:28 AM
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Old 02-24-2011, 11:56 AM
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We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line.
We're the last in line.
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Old 02-24-2011, 12:29 PM
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Lawful Evil is adhering to the rules but using them to twist events in your favor. "Rules lawyering" is using regulations to shield yourself from retribution as well as an excuse to not have to do the right thing. In reality these people not only want to do the wrong thing, they want to not be accused and blamed as well instead being portrayed as honorable individuals.

Did any of you play D&D?

Finally claiming that "A mention of X guild was unnecessary you could have reported it to an officer." Is a PR move that is utilized by businesses since forever. It's also censorship and mud slinging to claim that the person should have reported it to "your" authorities instead of letting the public know.

It's very easy to know what type of person someone is by examining their actions. Everything else is an illusion.
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Old 02-24-2011, 01:02 PM
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Old 02-24-2011, 12:14 PM
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Dio, is that a...gasp...double rainbow?
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Old 02-24-2011, 12:33 PM
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Dio, is that a...gasp...double rainbow?
It could be... it could be.... It also could be... A Double Rainbow..... A Double...... Rainbow In the Dark....
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Old 02-24-2011, 12:24 PM
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It looks like this all comes down to how people interpret what holding a camp means.

To many of us, it means that you have to HOLD that spawn. You die, you lose it. It has nothing to do with being a DICK to that person. It just has to do with what holding a camp MEANS. If you die, you aren't holding the camp. You shouldn't be at that camp. Being tired after hours and hours of camping and then dying, means that you LOST the battle for the camp. That is part of holding a camp... can you stay awake/functional long enough to be victorious? The only reason you are going to lose a camp that you HAVE, is by losing your own battle with that camp.

To some people, holding a camp means that you can die and expect that camp to not be taken simply by others being nice and believing your sob story. How long do you let somebody have the camp while they make a CR? When exactly does somebody become a dick? After 10 minutes? 15 minutes? 30 minutes? The problem is you are creating this imaginary line that nobody knows except you... and if people don't conform to what YOU believe is the appropriate time, they become a dick. See the problem? Most of us understand this, and thus, when we die while holding a camp, we say to ourselves "damn I suck...why did I have to die and lose that camp". The example somebody mentioned about camping Lord in lguk and believing that it would be a dick move to watch the pull and take it if the people died to the lord... honestly makes no sense to me. If they die to the Lord, they shouldn't of been trying to camp him. They lost their personal battle with the camp.

So yeah, it just comes down to opinion. Those that follow the rules and believe a camp is lost when you die, are seen as greedy loot whores from those who expect to be able to die at their camp and come back sometime later and expect it to be handed back to them.

It has nothing to do with being greedy or only caring about loot. It has to do with your opinion of what holding a camp means. It is unfortunate that those who believe camps should be held for them for an undetermined amount of time while making a CR, are seeing the others as douchebags and trying to pain them all as such.
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