Enough with this manastone list BS - Page 7

Pikle · #1 02-23-2010, 05:11 AM

Again Magicflow, I think Drummond is wrong about that, I would have to say the LD rule would only apply to a short server restart/downtime. Yeah I think it would be crazy if you could recall a camp 6 hours later. Maybe they will institute a rule applying to server downtimes. Only lvl 1's can join GC, so if you aren't lvl 1, please apply to a higher lvl guild.

Pikle · #2 02-24-2010, 06:46 PM

It's EQ, what else do we have to do other than level, farm gear and complain. Magicflow claims to never had or looted any manastones ever, so that's odd how I keep hearing about how many manastones Magicflow had.

yaaaflow · #3 02-24-2010, 07:17 PM

Yeah like I said to you I've never successfully camped a manastone. I've traded for a couple but have never managed to have the EE drop it. How the fuck do you keep hearing about me having 'many' of manastones when I have a grand total of two?

drplump · #4 02-25-2010, 02:40 AM

TY for the manastone for my main and my alt magicflow.

Pikle · #5 02-27-2010, 03:38 PM

haha, I've heard from a few people that you have traded/sold them to other people. And it's not my fault you never successfully camped a manastone, you had like 4 months to do it. I got my manastone when I was lvl 35 and took some friends down there to help because I couldn't kill the mob myself.

It's just you made such a big deal about all this magicflow, but everyone knows that you are rich enough to buy what you want... so no one really cares about the rich people

yaaaflow · #6 02-27-2010, 06:06 PM

edit: this thread is retarded and I'll just leave it at the fact that I've never traded or sold a manastone and you're kind of retarded Pikler.

Finawin · #7 03-04-2010, 07:51 PM

I'm highly amused by Magicflow bitching in this thread about rules or fairness just because their attempted thieving of a camp didn't work out for them.

Taminy · #8 03-05-2010, 03:23 PM

Back to the original topic...

I think this whole list thing is BS, at least in theory. Ie if I'm camping a manastone I shouldn't be able to just have my friend take over the camp when I leave IF someone else is there and willing to take it. I think whenever the original camper leaves, whoever is actually at the camp should /rand it or whatever. Of course, the original camper could also just stay and try to force any competition out, or people end up bringing 10 of their friends and all do a /rand to stack the odds.

So in practice it might not work to do away with lists... but at least in theory once the original camper leaves all rights to the camp go to whoever is physically at the camp. If there are competitors, /rand.

Wenai · #9 03-05-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Taminy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back to the original topic...

I think this whole list thing is BS, at least in theory. Ie if I'm camping a manastone I shouldn't be able to just have my friend take over the camp when I leave IF someone else is there and willing to take it. I think whenever the original camper leaves, whoever is actually at the camp should /rand it or whatever. Of course, the original camper could also just stay and try to force any competition out, or people end up bringing 10 of their friends and all do a /rand to stack the odds.

So in practice it might not work to do away with lists... but at least in theory once the original camper leaves all rights to the camp go to whoever is physically at the camp. If there are competitors, /rand.

Level 50 Member of Guild A is soloing Lord camp in Guktop.
Level 50 Member of Guild B sees it camped and chooses to wait.
Three level 30 members of Guild A come and group with the Level 50 of Guild A.
One hour passes and the Level 50 of Guild A decides he needs to get going.

So you are saying that the two level 30 members of Guild A should be forced to leave the camp based on the fact that the other person was there longer?

I have handed off many camps in my day and I really don't see a problem with it. Look at it like a group with revolving members. Just because the 6 people that were in the group controlling a spawn are not the same 6 people that are there now, does not mean that the camp was never unattended and you deserve it. Group members change, they never give up their spot.

Sure you could say they are "abusing the system" but from a GM perspective, it is a party with changing members that never leaves the camp unattended. There is no reason for that party to ever give it up.

Taminy · #10 03-05-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Level 50 Member of Guild A is soloing Lord camp in Guktop.
Level 50 Member of Guild B sees it camped and chooses to wait.
Three level 30 members of Guild A come and group with the Level 50 of Guild A.
One hour passes and the Level 50 of Guild A decides he needs to get going.

So you are saying that the two level 30 members of Guild A should be forced to leave the camp based on the fact that the other person was there longer?

I have handed off many camps in my day and I really don't see a problem with it. Look at it like a group with revolving members. Just because the 6 people that were in the group controlling a spawn are not the same 6 people that are there now, does not mean that the camp was never unattended and you deserve it. Group members change, they never give up their spot.

Sure you could say they are "abusing the system" but from a GM perspective, it is a party with changing members that never leaves the camp unattended. There is no reason for that party to ever give it up.

No I'm not saying that. If two people in guild A are camping EE, and one person leaves but the other person can still hold it, that person should be allowed to. Even if someone else showed up before one of them.

What I'm imagining is more like this:

"I have the right to camp this spot, AND when I leave I have the right to hand it off to someone who isn't even here and will show up 5 seconds before I leave". Personally I never viewed camp rights as including hand off rights as well.

I guess then whoever he wants to hand it off to will just show up 5 minutes before the original camper leaves. To me it becomes a question of at what point is it a hand off and at what point is it a group simply changing members. In practice I realize it's pretty much impossible to consistently enforce. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]