Game Mechanics: Worn haste bug

[Ivory]

Worn haste is apparently not effecting archery either ATM!!! Which we can all agree is the much more critical issue.

[Mud]

Relevant P99 thread: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=167376

April 2002 posts. These are closer to classic era -- still looking for pre-Luclin evidence.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=11417

Originally Posted by JhasonMacKintosh (April 5, 2002)

Pardon me but you are incorrect, haste DOES effect the refresh rate for backstab, as it does for all other special attacks, bash, kick, flying kick, etc. The base timer without haste is 10 seconds for backstab, with a FBSS it's roughly 8 seconds, if you are rage equiped it's 6 seconds.

Originally Posted by Wurmfood (April 5, 2002)

I am not 100 percent sure, but I think that haste does in fact effect Backstab refresh times. I just checked with Ragebringer equipped and then without it equipped, and the refresh on the backstab button was almost 2 seconds faster with Ragebringer equipped. I believe that RB has a haste of around 40 percent. This was a short little dry run, and I'm gonna do several more tests to get an average to make sure I didn't get a bum sample. If anyone else has done an exhaustive study of this, please post here and maybe save me some time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mud]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/i...99098331135932

Originally Posted by Prixx (May 27, 2001)

thing to remember Rogues is the noticable difference haste has on oppertunity to activate BS/disarm/instill doubt. I BS every 8 seconds with no haste, with FBSS and Alacrity I BS every 6.5 seconds (roughly 38% haste and 19 extra swings per 100). The rates of disarm and instill doubt go up the same as well. With bane of garou (sp) and FBSS I BS every 5.5 seconds (roughly 62% haste and 31 extra swings per 100) You see where this is going?

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/i...00158280964208

Originally Posted by Lady Ishwar (September 27, 2001)

Most people report the haste to be a 21% speed increase [referencing FBSS], or equivalent a 17% delay reduction (a 100% speed increase gives a 50% delay reduction, as when you are twice as fast, you get things done in half the time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ).

I have only done a simple test, timing 3 consecutive backstabs to take a total of 25 seconds. Normally they take 10 seconds each. This is a 16.7% delay reduction, so within error, it looks consistent with the 17% expected value.

[Aesop]

Bump I don't want to have to wear my COF again 👿

[Erati]

tons of evidence

pls fix - literally just need to fix specific effects like Seething Fury

[Mud]

Bump--first page worthy. Anyone else care to find additional evidence? This goes for not only rogues, but monks, warriors, etc.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tons of evidence

pls fix - literally just need to fix specific effects like Seething Fury

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[Renem]

Bump for please fix. Doesn't make sense that you have to wear additional haste items with the Ragebringer just for the Backstab haste.

[Erati]

bump - Mud's work in this thread is excellent, worn haste RIGHT NOW affects the timers except the haste effects from epic effects

If it works it should work for all haste effects - clearly bugged due to the nature of the epic spell effects interaction with our clients or something to that affect

is this something that is even possible to fix or do rogues literally have to gear for two haste items if they depend on epic haste for their 40%

[Muggens]

Bump for more rogue DPS