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Originally Posted by JurisDictum
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1) you seem to think I am one of the first and foremost proponents of making this server for trackers, when I never really advocated for a more elitist server. I never supported the Forsaken loot council for example (the way the trackers were rewarded the best items).
2) Its a FACT that those who don't track directly benefit from those that do (assuming their in a tracking guild). Its not a subjective debate. Its a free rider problem.
3) Dude, the free problem is not exactly graduate level jargon. Most people that have taken a few social science classes at a local community college knows what it means.
4) This isn't TMO 1 guild situation. I was never in TMO so ill have to take your word for it. This is a situation where we have two guilds competing with each other on a more or less even playing field. We absolutely do need to track unless we want the other guild to take everything. As long as there is 1 sad motherfucker on the server willing to track (inevitable), there will be tracking.
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1. You took a stance that favors trackers over raiders. I feel that stance is stupid. To be a raiding guild you need to have people to track and people to kill. Failure to track means loss of mobs and encourages more people to track. Favoring the trackers in any way beyond allowing them accumulate DKP or the equivalent faster is good recipe for civil war. This echoes a very old and heated issue within TMO since we were disbanded. Worsened by the old Forceful Entry people who were used to crazy, chaotic, democratic debate over every conceivable issue including this.
2. It's a fact that anyone who logs on to help kill what you tracked is contributing and you should appreciate them for it. No one should feel like a dead beat, be looked down upon, or otherwise scorned for being unable or unwilling to participate in one facet of raiding. Yet I saw this happen so often and I absolutely despise anyone who would treat their guildies that way. If your guild ever makes you feel like the only way to contribute is to track constantly, leave. Trust me. Just leave.
3. No, your meaning was apparent immediately. I was simply making fun of your phrasing and you helped me understand with the most pretentious definition imaginable. How you meant it
was jargon. I feel you should express yourself to a general audience in the plainest way possible. Otherwise you are being a pretentious asshole assuming a baseline level of education and that the things you know are universally understood by everyone. GOSH... IT'S ONLY 200 LEVEL ECONOMICS.
4. Oh a TWO guild situation. Well I'm from TMO so I wouldn't know anything about them fighting VD, BDA, FE, IB, or Rampage at various times. Disregard everything I said.
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