<Neighborhood Watch>

[Kirban]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are extremely dumb if it needs explained to you why using water to avoid an AoE in a outdoor zone is an exploit.

Well, do you think they would risk a ban over something as silly as Klandicar?
They just think that no one would notice?

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Kirban [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had to re-read the PvP rules: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=148787

Under "Bind-point/Corpse Camping and Loot and Scoot (LnS)"
Found: calling LnS from pure PvE deaths is not allowed.

And since MOST corpses in WW had 2+ hours on them, it seems to indicate that they died to pve not pvp. Now, that being said I did see multiple YTs on the same person in some cases too.

BUT as an FYI, I and others were attacked in CS, SG & WW AFTER <Tempest> called Force LnS. Reasons given were that since they were not involved in the pvp then it didn't apply to them. Now, since I didn't die I don't know if this was a violation of their Force LnS or not, but do have logs/screenshots if anyone is interested.

I couldn't however, find anything about using water to avoid pve AE as an exploit or not. So, if someone can then I'd be interested to know one way or the other since no <Tempest> seemed to go on the record as to state whether or not they thought they were exploiting.

You can force LNS at any time regardless if pve or pvp, the whole point of this rule is so people cant sit on peoples corpses for hours on end like last night was done. A good example is when Empire wiped on A VP dragon and Azrael zoned in and sat on 40 of their corpses. Sirken was summoned and Empire was allowed to force lns without taking any yellow text. Force LNS can never be denied, as stated in the rules. These players clearly have no intention to enjoy the server anymore and just want to grief new players because they are quickly realizing we are doing the same content they did, but with a 3rd of the numbers. As for the exploit accusations, go get some evidence and record it. Taking screenshots of corpses in the water doesnt prove anything ( as we all know, Klandicar has an AoE fear). As for the griefing and rule breaking regarding LNS last night, petitions have been filed. And Yes Andis, what i said earlier is also in regard to your guild. If you want to associate with these toxic players and hand hold with then then you will be treated the same as them, it isnt an elf emu threat, it is simply a warning of what you should expect given the circumstances.
God Bless and Good luck.

[Tameth]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can force LNS at any time regardless if pve or pvp, the whole point of this rule is so people cant sit on peoples corpses for hours on end like last night was done. A good example is when Empire wiped on A VP dragon and Azrael zoned in and sat on 40 of their corpses. Sirken was summoned and Empire was allowed to force lns without taking any yellow text. Force LNS can never be denied, as stated in the rules. These players clearly have no intention to enjoy the server anymore and just want to grief new players because they are quickly realizing we are doing the same content they did, but with a 3rd of the numbers. As for the exploit accusations, go get some evidence and record it. Taking screenshots of corpses in the water doesnt prove anything ( as we all know, Klandicar has an AoE fear). As for the griefing and rule breaking regarding LNS last night, petitions have been filed. And Yes Andis, what i said earlier is also in regard to your guild. If you want to associate with these toxic players and hand hold with then then you will be treated the same as them, it isnt an elf emu threat, it is simply a warning of what you should expect given the circumstances.
God Bless and Good luck.

so you're going to corpse camp Dominion because you exploited and got rekT as the new zerg?

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Tameth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so you're going to corpse camp Dominion because you exploited and got rekT as the new zerg?

No thats not at all what was said Tameth, not sure if you lack reading comprehension or are trolling. If Dominion allies or hand holds with this guild they will be treated like we were treated yesterday. If they stay independent and stay avoid from those scumbags then i dont see why we cant have some friendly competition to rebuild the server. The facts are in front of you, Colgates crew is only still playing to grief players off of the server, is that what Dominion is also going to represent? Make your intentions clear. As for the exploit accusations, the petition forum is a few sub forums down.

[snufzaimoverlord]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can force LNS at any time regardless if pve or pvp, the whole point of this rule is so people cant sit on peoples corpses for hours on end like last night was done. A good example is when Empire wiped on A VP dragon and Azrael zoned in and sat on 40 of their corpses. Sirken was summoned and Empire was allowed to force lns without taking any yellow text. Force LNS can never be denied, as stated in the rules. These players clearly have no intention to enjoy the server anymore and just want to grief new players because they are quickly realizing we are doing the same content they did, but with a 3rd of the numbers. As for the exploit accusations, go get some evidence and record it. Taking screenshots of corpses in the water doesnt prove anything ( as we all know, Klandicar has an AoE fear). As for the griefing and rule breaking regarding LNS last night, petitions have been filed. And Yes Andis, what i said earlier is also in regard to your guild. If you want to associate with these toxic players and hand hold with then then you will be treated the same as them, it isnt an elf emu threat, it is simply a warning of what you should expect given the circumstances.
God Bless and Good luck.

Lol rustled.

Good thing I can take screenshots and fraps without a bunch of humans running around instead of proper AoN models, makes for easy lawyering [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love playing by the rules, <Neighborhood Watch>

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by snufzaimoverlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol rustled.

Good thing I can take screenshots and fraps without a bunch of humans running around instead of proper AoN models, makes for easy lawyering [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love playing by the rules, <Neighborhood Watch>

Pras it

[fiegi 8.0]

Originally Posted by snufzaimoverlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol rustled.

Good thing I can take screenshots and fraps without a bunch of humans running around instead of proper AoN models, makes for easy lawyering [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love playing by the rules, <Neighborhood Watch>

forum coined

[Kirban]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Force LNS can never be denied, as stated in the rules.

Full text: In large scale PvP (7 or more players on both sides), LnS must be called by a force as a whole. Individuals may not invoke Loot and Scoot. LnS may be called by the force at any time, this option may never be forfeited. If a fight took place across multiple zones, the force is considered to have finished LnS'ing once all of their players have left the zones affected. All other LnS rules still apply.
As indicated in screenshots and YT Logs there were not 7+ pvping against <Tempest> so therefor it seems as thou Force could NOT be called. Correct?

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(They)just want to grief new players because they are quickly realizing we are doing the same content they did, but with a 3rd of the numbers. As for the exploit accusations, go get some evidence and record it.

To be clear, are you:
1) Trying to deny using water to avoid the AE?
2) Trying to say it wasn't exploiting?
3) Or trying to say that you can exploit and kill mobs with 1/3 the numbers?

If video proof of the fight is posted, then what?

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Kirban [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Full text: In large scale PvP (7 or more players on both sides), LnS must be called by a force as a whole. Individuals may not invoke Loot and Scoot. LnS may be called by the force at any time, this option may never be forfeited. If a fight took place across multiple zones, the force is considered to have finished LnS'ing once all of their players have left the zones affected. All other LnS rules still apply.
As indicated in screenshots and YT Logs there were not 7+ pvping against <Tempest> so therefor it seems as thou Force could NOT be called. Correct?


To be clear, are you:
1) Trying to deny using water to avoid the AE?
2) Trying to say it wasn't exploiting?
3) Or trying to say that you can exploit and kill mobs with 1/3 the numbers?

If video proof of the fight is posted, then what?

Badbeat Gongshow Colgate Crouton Dava Letsjoe Checkraise isnt 7 people? Extra chromosome or what?
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[Kirban]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros
(They)just want to grief new players because they are quickly realizing we are doing the same content they did, but with a 3rd of the numbers. As for the exploit accusations, go get some evidence and record it.

To be clear, are you:
1) Trying to deny using water to avoid the AE?
2) Trying to say it wasn't exploiting?
3) Or trying to say that you can exploit and kill mobs with 1/3 the numbers?

If video proof of the fight is posted, then what?

Still looking for answers. I welcome any <Tempest> to respond, since Ragnaros won't.