Tunare Necklace vs the Halfling

[VanEinstein]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, this.

You can literally go anywhere with racial hide/sneak as it is right now. I'm pretty sure this is not intended/classic, but its been working for years after being reported to bug forums. As a druid, you get a guaranteed 10 minute invis at lvl 50. So, you can go anywhere you want with hide/sneak + invis, as long as you can make it there in 10 minutes.

How often and/or for what reasons do you find yourself making use of it?

[jolanar]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, this.

You can literally go anywhere with racial hide/sneak as it is right now. I'm pretty sure this is not intended/classic, but its been working for years after being reported to bug forums. As a druid, you get a guaranteed 10 minute invis at lvl 50. So, you can go anywhere you want with hide/sneak + invis, as long as you can make it there in 10 minutes.

What do you mean "you can go anywhere"? If mobs aren't all turned the other way sneak doesn't help and hide should be auto turned off when you move.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you mean "you can go anywhere"? If mobs aren't all turned the other way sneak doesn't help and hide should be auto turned off when you move.

It's invis+sneak. Sneak does help because mobs here only see thru it in a cone at their front. Sides are fully blind.

[Bummey]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sneak/hide can replicate rogue sneak hide

No, it can't. Only rogues can use sneak to move while hidden, and only a rogue's hide is the special invis/ivu blend that bypasses the see invis capabilities of most enemies; everyone else with the hide ability, non-rogue halflings included, will only have an invisibility equivalent to standard invisibility spells that is broken upon moving.

if your class can be a halfling, make it as one

This part's right, at least.


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Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's invis+sneak. Sneak does help because mobs here only see thru it in a cone at their front. Sides are fully blind.

It can mimic it, not replicate it. I've used invis/sneak to go behind the foreman in Overthere after porting in, but it's a far cry from my rogue's hide/sneak movement.

[Briscoe]

The correct answer is human.

[Tupakk]

Halfling and come to Dial a Port, we will show the way.

[Doctor Jeff]

TL;DR the whole thread

halflings have sneak. there is no reason to ever be a non sneaking race.

I can walk straight down to betrayer hall invis/sneak on my halfling druid, and my woodelf druid can't get down there without clearing

also max faction in kc without a VP key

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TL;DR the whole thread

halflings have sneak. there is no reason to ever be a non sneaking race.

I can walk straight down to betrayer hall invis/sneak on my halfling druid, and my woodelf druid can't get down there without clearing

also max faction in kc without a VP key

The question then becomes, "Is it more useful than infinite click root?"

You're not sneaking down betrayer hall every day, and really, a druid has little reason to do that anyway.

[Doctor Jeff]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question then becomes, "Is it more useful than infinite click root?"

You're not sneaking down betrayer hall every day, and really, a druid has little reason to do that anyway.

yes
I use sneak to bypass or hide from mobs nearly every time I play the character.

and its not just for that, can mq anything that requires indifferent as well.

was able to mq parts of my mage epic that I couldn't have on another character

same with monk epic

managing the server tick, with sneak, I have run down from the seb entrance to the ledge past mobs that definitely saw invis to catch up to my group. that would have wasted 20-30 minutes of their time to come get me otherwise.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes
I use sneak to bypass or hide from mobs nearly every time I play the character.

and its not just for that, can mq anything that requires indifferent as well.

was able to mq parts of my mage epic that I couldn't have on another character

same with monk epic

managing the server tick, with sneak, I have run down from the seb entrance to the ledge past mobs that definitely saw invis to catch up to my group. that would have wasted 20-30 minutes of their time to come get me otherwise.

KoS, using racial hide (wood elves get) to do a quest turn in that requires indifferent:

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Good on you for getting to a group in Seb. One special case. If you're savvy, maybe you can be sneaky and get around a bunch of places, but it's gonna get your average person killed and then you're wasting an hour on a corpse run instead of 30 minutes on a clear. Monks are awesome with sneak, because they can FD when shit hits the fan. A druid can only D.

Clicky root, that's broken as hell. You can just root the same mobs you're sneaking by, duck around a corner and camp off the aggro without fear of being ganked from a pather.