Raid Rules Summit Thread

[derpcake]

if you need reasons to wipe blue you haven't read this thread, obviously

[Man0warr]

Training is the preferred method because the GMs made FTE king. Everything that's happened to the raid scene is because of FTE being more important and not wanting to get leap frogged.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by kilmoll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Half the problem with this raid scene is the bypassing of most zone trash by using things that were pure exploits on Live, or using CotH races which is pure gayness. On real servers, the rules were first in force. We had GM's imported to Veeshan to make sure the peace was kept and to keep everyone playing by the rules. The way people gimp the content here is just pure utter shit.

Pulling a train that includes a named , and then pulling a named out of the train, and training other mobs away that would be in the way of the named. That is all that is going on here. These principles can be used anywhere in the game, and I'm certain has even been applied in KC, as someone takes on too many mobs, zones, and someone ganks out some choice juicy mobs as they path by. This is not an exploit, people that don't play that way find it unnerving to see northwing mobs in the entrance being fought.

Coth races exists to secure this method the fastest and ensure FTE, which secures rights to the mob.

As per the first in force nonsense, why do people insist "well this is how it was on live servers" nonsense. There were maybe like 40 servers at everquests peak. Not everyone had the same type of GM policing, server rotations, and raid scene. That being your reason for why things should be a certain way is no more vaild than the way things operate in the current.

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Training is the preferred method because the GMs made FTE king. Everything that's happened to the raid scene is because of FTE being more important and not wanting to get leap frogged.

This is true, whomever kills the trash looses the raid target. Everyone likes to wag their finger at what goes on in TOV/kael as being the big problem; however nobody utters a word how absolutely nobody clears all the way to trakanon, VS, or VP dragons.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is true, whomever kills the trash looses the raid target. Everyone likes to wag their finger at what goes on in TOV/kael as being the big problem; however nobody utters a word how absolutely nobody clears all the way to trakanon, VS, or VP dragons.

Trak and VS usually have dungeon groups killing the things in the way; it was this way on Live as well during this era. VS in particular is in KC, a zone that is usually more or less clear to VS's room. And after you cleared out the juggs and Tolapumj that was really it for the Trak clear.

With VP I read a ton of complaints about it during the Kunark era of p99. Many words were indeed uttered. The only reason why they are not uttered any more, I imagine, is because the people who would have been competing for VP targets have more or less moved on to ToV.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With VP I read a ton of complaints about it during the Kunark era of p99. Many words were indeed uttered. The only reason why they are not uttered any more, I imagine, is because the people who would have been competing for VP targets have more or less moved on to ToV.

VP is different. Killing the trash is actively a bad decision because it respawns quickly and and/or trash spawns more mobs on death.

[beyondinfin]

You people, sheeeeeesh! Apparently shame is not an issue here.

[pod1992]

Get rid of yellow text, and DPS race.... Also make VP and ToV Non CSR Zones. The strong will survive.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Herp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Sunday April 3rd at 2pm EST there will be a discussion regarding Raid Rules because they are severely out of date


What raid rules would YOU like to see changed?
How can your guild get more loot?

consider red

[Lune]

The time has come for the Second Council of Sirken

[Whirled]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The time has come for the Second Council of Sirken

/applaud
Would buy drinks for any who made this^