Is red server dead?

[krazyGlue]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is there any MMO that made competitive raiding/gearing/progression AND pvp a balanced thing?

Wow

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow

how does wow do it, instanced raiding?

[magician]

the only thing I took away from this thread is that empire won box, and lite has a low brain cell count

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is there any MMO that made competitive raiding/gearing/progression AND pvp a balanced thing?

Shadowbane, Darkfall, DAoC, EVE and many more all had/have very strong PVP elements. EQ didn't even beta test PVP.

[Grandbeard]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shadowbane, Darkfall, DAoC, EVE and many more all had/have very strong PVP elements. EQ didn't even beta test PVP.

Shadowbane was a pure PvP game! I don't remember raiding ever being a part of that game. The PvE elements were basic for the most part. It still angers me to this day that Wolfpack studios did not take an extra 6 months to fix the bugs in that game b4 launch and to secure proper login servers.


That is why Zek is looking so damn good. We can control cities and improve guards etc.

[Videri]

I keep logging in on Red99 and raiding with 20-40 friends and PvPing against 20-40 <Empire>. I'm leveling up another character or two (after my level 60 bard and cleric), helping guildmates with epics and various mobs, and experiencing new raids. When I'm on at primetime, I usually find people to level with here and there (but not always). When I am on at 4am, I can free-farm whatever I want. Maybe I'm missing something, but things seem alright to me!

I think the key to having fun is making friends. I think Teamspeak is vital to friendships on such a small server.

[cronik]

Expansions break pvp eventually. No matter how balanced it starts (which usually isn't much and favors casters), within a few expansions itemization favors tanks and suddenly they're unstoppable powerhouses.

Yea there were some games with pvp focuses but even those had horrible imbas. Or downright stupid shit like daoc with area mezzes and shadowbane with sb.exe, the OP killer of all.

[Tradesonred]

Yeah my daddy can beat your daddy lololol

[Sirban]

More players online on Zek, than R99.

Nuff said!

[BardPop]

Nobody is going to stop you if you spend some time pvping before you level. If you decided you wanted to sit in cb or whatever and pk people as a lowbie it's easily possible.