Is red server dead?

[iruinedyourday]

Red needs a level 55 cap guild so they can focus on organization and using thier superior powers laerned on blue getting FTE instead of playing the smedy vs holocost game

[Colgate]

yea let's use an example that is within the realm of possible reality tho

ur in some mystical fantasy where rogean gives a fuck

[Beastagoog]

Anyone remember when you could view the pop of the severs as you logged in?

[cronik]

The Zek servers were a brilliant move by SoE. It shoved every problem child into one area and gave them rule sets that required minimal GM intervention. The move was so amazing that UO replicated it by opening Siege Perilous.

Suddenly all the blue and trammel shards are running smooth as silk and the asshole community is happily abusing the hell out of each other on their red servers.

I still don't get what would make someone want to run a red server tho. Like this place... It's a total cesspool full of socially stunted life-fails; who would want to take this on, and who could last more than a year or two at it?

[Xaanka]

totally agree w/ that sentiment. staff fucked up a lot. we're kind of responsible for the staff not giving a shit about us ex: griefing off every guide they train for red.

edit: which led to deru being forced into doing CSR for red, subsequently driving the staff voice of the red server insane & off the box forever

[cronik]

I've noticed the same on pretty much every UO and EQ private server. The devs that are active enough to run a successful pvp server tend to cater to the hardest of core players. They talk to and get feedback from their poopsockers, and think those guys know what's best for the server.

The flaw in that is it has no place for new players. Poopsockers are already established, have guilds, and aren't interested in making it easier than what they had, which is a fallacy since when they were leveling they didn't get griefed by twinks. So new players have tons of obstacles to overcome and have to do it in a toxic environment where the establishment is deaf to their feedback.

There's so much content you're often locked out of as a new player that it's hard to invest the kind of grinding these old school style games demand. Yes, you can try to join the dominant guilds on the server and suckle at their teats, but that goes against why most of us are interested in red servers to begin with.

We're interested in rolling with some of our bros, having a shot at decent loot, and being fairly competitive gear-wise with the rest of the server. We're not interested in fucking DKP or giant assed Zerg guilds... That's bluebie shit... Fuck off with that noise.

[cronik]

Of course all that being said, I couldn't imagine any box running successfully for years once it hits velious/Luclin.

Other option is keep it kunark/classic and eventually that'll run its course too.

So the "successful" servers like this one cater to their poopsockers. You might not get NEW players but the old ones will stick around longer.

[iruinedyourday]

idk, I think red is working as designed by the great brad MQ.. I mean compared to live blue servers, the red servers had the same % of players and low pop.. its just that there were 100,00 players, so that small number was up to like 2-5k..

Here its 130 out of 1300 online players? thats not bad.

A lot of players are just afraid of the hardcoreness that is red

I hope the recycle server is teams, and after it resets you can transfer characters to red or blue.. I think that will slowly turn a lot of our population over to red.. I think that a lot of folks here intend to play on these servers, indefinitely.. unless rogan and nil rage out and shut them down, but I can see them keeping them up indefinitely.

That means one day, red server, will have a solid 1k pop.... one day.

But for now, we just have to settle with our small #'s and superior playstyle skill and knowledge of the game /flexred

[cronik]

Dude this server is never ever ever gonna be 1k. Ever. No server in the history of ever has ever recovered after getting to this state.

It's dying. How long it stays where it is depends on how hardcore the core is, but ultimately what most of us like is fresh starts/server launches. It's why talk of discord got so many jazzed up, and ultimately let down. Also why so many from here are playing magebox.

Some other server might come out that's just perfect(unlikely), but no way is it this one. Every pixel you earn here will only be useable on the people already around you, or their alts. If you're hoping that you can gear up and eventually have a leg up on, well, anyone, then you better be in Empire and you better hope they don't actually wake the sleeper.

[Bazia]

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