Common Man's ToV Raid Scene

[Fifield]

good god all they would talk about is chipolte

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good god all they would talk about is chipolte

not a bad choice for dinner tonight.....

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good god all they would talk about is chipolte

I will not entirely rule this out.

Though I could rant about not classic things for an hour also.

[Spyder73]

I in no way have any inside knowledge or speak for Asgard, but taking a shot in the dark here...I doubt Asgard/Forsaken would ever make any kind of deals with the turn coat cuck lords in Taken. Its a Braveheart situation where Longshanks is trying to make a deal with William Wallace...not going to happen. You p!ssed in the koolaid and now complain that you're thirsty. Cowboy up and take a sip, it will help wash down the taste of the sh!t sandwich you are currently eating.

Taken and BDA are of the same ilk and universally frowned upon in many circles of the raiding community, so a "no peace" mentality will probably prevail for the foreseeable future in my humble opinion.

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I in no way have any inside knowledge or speak for Asgard, but taking a shot in the dark here...I doubt Asgard/Forsaken would ever make any kind of deals with the turn coat cuck lords in Taken. Its a Braveheart situation where Longshanks is trying to make a deal with William Wallace...not going to happen. You p!ssed in the koolaid and now complain that you're thirsty. Cowboy up and take a sip, it will help wash down the taste of the sh!t sandwich you are currently eating.

Taken and BDA are of the same ilk and universally frowned upon in many circles of the raiding community, so a "no peace" mentality will probably prevail for the foreseeable future in my humble opinion.

Right a guild that never had a raiding ban on them is someone you can't trust.

The human psyche creates such interesting distortions of reality.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right a guild that never had a raiding ban on them is someone you can't trust.

The human psyche creates such interesting distortions of reality.

Quick history lesson from my experiences since 2014...

It's not so much about trust as it is "Do unto other as you want done unto you". I can only speak from personal experience, but BDA and Taken were both instrumental (IE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE) for the dismantling of the class rotation system because they had zerg numbers and were getting annoyed by guilds like Asgard, Omni, and Azure Guard who wanted to kill dragons under the CASUAL class rotation. Taken and BDA both refused to move up and compete with IB and TMO. Asgard decides enough of this sh!t and joins class C because there's only like 2 guilds actually competing…We start getting kills!

So Asgard decides we are going to step it up and compete at the highest level possible in Velious to start off – nToV...not going to lie, times were tough at first, we were too small and the zergs were too big. So we made a few alliances so that we could live normal lives and also get loot. Taken joins us only to desert the alliance and join the competition in hopes of crushing us and monopolizing ToV 100%. Funny thing happens though, this only galvanized the Asgard alliance and we started kicking the sh!t out Taken and Rampage on a weekly basis. So now its clear that Taken made ANOTHER bad move, and now that Rampage is gone talks of a rotation are starting again.

Seems to be a situation of a guy picking a fight, getting his sh!t pushed in, and then calling for a truce and saying the other guy is a bully.

Excuse me when I say “blow it out your ass” to any Taken member who thinks they are not the problem with the current raid scene.

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quick history lesson from my experiences since 2014...

It's not so much about trust as it is "Do unto other as you want done unto you". I can only speak from personal experience, but BDA and Taken were both instrumental (IE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE) for the dismantling of the class rotation system because they had zerg numbers and were getting annoyed by guilds like Asgard, Omni, and Azure Guard who wanted to kill dragons under the CASUAL class rotation. Taken and BDA both refused to move up and compete with IB and TMO. Asgard decides enough of this sh!t and joins class C because there's only like 2 guilds actually competing…We start getting kills!

So Asgard decides we are going to step it up and compete at the highest level possible in Velious to start off – nToV...not going to lie, times were tough at first, we were too small and the zergs were too big. So we made a few alliances so that we could live normal lives and also get loot. Taken joins us only to desert the alliance and join the competition in hopes of crushing us and monopolizing ToV 100%. Funny thing happens though, this only galvanized the Asgard alliance and we started kicking the sh!t out Taken and Rampage on a weekly basis. So now its clear that Taken made ANOTHER bad move, and now that Rampage is gone talks of a rotation are starting again.

Seems to be a situation of a guy picking a fight, getting his sh!t pushed in, and then calling for a truce and saying the other guy is a bully.

Excuse me when I say “blow it out your ass” to any Taken member who thinks they are not the problem with the current raid scene.

So Taken had broken no agreement but because you wanted a greater share of the loot you wanted another guild to move into an area whose only advantage was VP access while they lacked the needed resources to effectively compete there?

Interesting. You wanted the same thing they wanted but they are the ones you blame while not knowing a thing about their situation.

Alliances are temporary things, everyone should understand that. Your guild joined an alliance to better itself and it's members, so did other guilds. If a better offer comes along your guild will take it just as all other guilds will.

You personally don't feel Taken made decisions that affected you positively. The job of a guild is to take care of it's members not non-members. You're personal bias is coloring your opinion as I originally stated.

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quick history lesson from my experiences since 2014...

It's not so much about trust as it is "Do unto other as you want done unto you". I can only speak from personal experience, but BDA and Taken were both instrumental (IE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE) for the dismantling of the class rotation system because they had zerg numbers and were getting annoyed by guilds like Asgard, Omni, and Azure Guard who wanted to kill dragons under the CASUAL class rotation. Taken and BDA both refused to move up and compete with IB and TMO. Asgard decides enough of this sh!t and joins class C because there's only like 2 guilds actually competing…We start getting kills!

So Asgard decides we are going to step it up and compete at the highest level possible in Velious to start off – nToV...not going to lie, times were tough at first, we were too small and the zergs were too big. So we made a few alliances so that we could live normal lives and also get loot. Taken joins us only to desert the alliance and join the competition in hopes of crushing us and monopolizing ToV 100%. Funny thing happens though, this only galvanized the Asgard alliance and we started kicking the sh!t out Taken and Rampage on a weekly basis. So now its clear that Taken made ANOTHER bad move, and now that Rampage is gone talks of a rotation are starting again.

Seems to be a situation of a guy picking a fight, getting his sh!t pushed in, and then calling for a truce and saying the other guy is a bully.

Excuse me when I say “blow it out your ass” to any Taken member who thinks they are not the problem with the current raid scene.

Nice fairy tale. This request/thread also started by a member of your alliance...

As for taken leaving the alliance we were never a part of the alliance in TOV with FA. How did we leave an alliance we were never a part of? Appears taken made the best move we are now apart of the best single raiding guild on the server, without question.

Stick to your trolling in RnF.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we are now apart of the best single raiding guild on the server, without question.

<Asgard> is and will always be the best guild on the server regardless of whether they raid or not.

<Awakend> is just the next latest incarnation in a long list of crap guild mergers that essentially involve the same group of neck-beards. Call it FE, IB, A-Team, Rampage, TMO, its all the same, and it ends the same every time as well.

[Oleris]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quick history lesson from my experiences since 2014...

It's not so much about trust as it is "Do unto other as you want done unto you". I can only speak from personal experience, but BDA and Taken were both instrumental (IE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE) for the dismantling of the class rotation system because they had zerg numbers and were getting annoyed by guilds like Asgard, Omni, and Azure Guard who wanted to kill dragons under the CASUAL class rotation. Taken and BDA both refused to move up and compete with IB and TMO. Asgard decides enough of this sh!t and joins class C because there's only like 2 guilds actually competing…We start getting kills!

So Asgard decides we are going to step it up and compete at the highest level possible in Velious to start off – nToV...not going to lie, times were tough at first, we were too small and the zergs were too big. So we made a few alliances so that we could live normal lives and also get loot. Taken joins us only to desert the alliance and join the competition in hopes of crushing us and monopolizing ToV 100%. Funny thing happens though, this only galvanized the Asgard alliance and we started kicking the sh!t out Taken and Rampage on a weekly basis. So now its clear that Taken made ANOTHER bad move, and now that Rampage is gone talks of a rotation are starting again.

Seems to be a situation of a guy picking a fight, getting his sh!t pushed in, and then calling for a truce and saying the other guy is a bully.

Excuse me when I say “blow it out your ass” to any Taken member who thinks they are not the problem with the current raid scene.

you are wrong. Taken backed out because it was too much raiding originally. After a couple weeks of getting north tov down, leadership declined to partner with taken because it would split the loot too much. Taken took the correct decision by allying with rampage because it got them north loot when they would have to compete against asgard/forsaken + rampage. I don't blame taken for doing what's best for their guild. I was just sad that our VP adventures ended because of it.