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Old 02-18-2016, 05:21 PM
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Coleslaw, you are making an awful lot of assumptions. If I remember correctly, the population of Everquest in during SoL than during RoK of SoV. So there's no basis that the population would be lower, like in red. There were less pvp players on eqlive, so that makes sense for the server here to be lower pop. I think that based on the fact that the people who post on the forum, we draw a consensus of the entire servers opinion. But the casuals don't post on the forum, and I bet for every 10 players online, MAYBE 1 is posting on the forums.

IMO, a luclin server would be populous and would decimate blues healthy population, which is the biggest reason not to do
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:37 PM
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Actually, growth stagnated with the release of Luclin in late 2001. 2005 EQ about fell off the chart. There is a sudden peak in 2004, but very likely people coming back from trying EQ2, then leaving EQ1 again after a re-try. Was pretty sad numbers post-lucin.
Here's the chart - and these reported numbers, not guess work.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:12 PM
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Very explosive and aggressive rise all the way into Planes of Power.

WoW was a monster. We played the fuck out of Luclin/PoP then we dipped to WoW beta.

Facts.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:15 PM
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The death of Warhammer is incredible.

800k++ to zero'd out in 2 years.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:42 PM
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Very explosive and aggressive rise all the way into Planes of Power.

WoW was a monster. We played the fuck out of Luclin/PoP then we dipped to WoW beta.

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what? From wikipedia:
The Shadows of Luclin 2001 December 4
The Planes of Power 2002 October 29

How do you figure aggressive to PoP?? That's a really odd comment, bro.
The increase in subs abruptly stops while all the pre-luclin hype is cast into the machine from SOE - just months before it's release.

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I totally agree though that WoW did a lot of damage, to both EQ1&2 (I only played 4months of WoW years later, hated it, then was hacked too heh). Though that wasn't until end of 2004. That's a stagnate point in 2001 there, that never recovered. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Luclin.

You might like it, and that's fine, but obviously most didn't, or subs would have kept growing. But... abruptly stopped. Then you figure the turnover numbers, which there would likely still be new players coming in, but old players leaving. That slight increase is very slight, still stagnating, especially considering turnover.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:55 PM
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Good news, I just got off the phone with my mom she said that Luclin is for sure coming to P99.
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Old 02-18-2016, 10:50 PM
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I see another pattern in daywolfs linked chart. around 2003 - 2005 saw the launch of other know which really drove competetion hard and that competition rly accounts for the majority of lost subscribers.

sol + expansions didn't drive away share nearly as much as alternatives which catered to different themes and plays style, not to mention shinier pixel shading
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Old 02-18-2016, 10:55 PM
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In fact it chart shows eq was able to maintain good consistent momentum in a heavily fluctuating and highly competitive market

sorry I don't have big econ words, just plebe swype to try n explain.

but u will see it if u haven't already

we aren't judjing eq itself when u look at a chart like that and u can't pretend the market forces aren't there
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Old 02-19-2016, 12:36 AM
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Have you been Haynar'd today?
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Old 02-19-2016, 12:44 AM
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Lack of scroll wheel sucks at first but I got used to it within the first week of playing on p02. It's not that bad when you use f9 and remap the zoom and zoom out keys.
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