RELEASE LUCLIN ON RED

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then quit .no1 gives a fuck

Classic, been there and done that. Its called an expansion.

Maybe you have heard of it, but they add expansions to games to make them better.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by easy_lee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure I'm saying we should go back to classic, and that I believe kunark and velious on red were a mistake. Your argument supports mine.

I'd say the chances of a Luclin release are higher than the chance of another classic server. Hence our position.


Luclin would enable small guilds like Casual Scum, Thunderdome, Friends, and remnants of TMO a shot at being able to raid content because of the sheer number of targets available when Luclin comes into play.

These guilds would grow and flourish without <Friends> and a few certain players in <Empire> hawking over them.

FACT: We have population already interested in playing R99 in its current state.

There is no reason to believe a rollback server, wipe, or fresh server should be considered until we beta test the Luclin Raid Pressure Relief Theory as I have coined it. Which would result in a sustained 350 pop average server, nearly 200 more people than we have right now.

More on that later, after I'm able to reconnoiter with Dr. Heartbergerstein in the alley behind the temple.

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no reason to believe a rollback server, wipe, or fresh server should be considered until we beta test the Luclin Raid Pressure Relief Theory as I have coined it. Which would result in a sustained 350 pop average server, nearly 200 more people than we have right now.

First, you have no evidence to support any of the bullshit you're spewing. Second, you don't back up your points with any sort of theory. Third, more zones means less people per zone, thus less PvP.

But if you want to talk theory, here's some theory for you: more raid targets means less PvP. Why contest someone over mob A when you can just kill mob B for comparable loot?

The only thing more targets would do is give smaller guilds free, uncontested pixels since the biggest guild would be occupied with the best ones. That goes against the spirit of the server. It's called Red PvP, not Red Free Uncontested Pixels and Fast Leveling For People Who Suck At EQ.

You're pushing for something that not only makes PvP more difficult since people are more spread out, but also makes it less likely by creating more raid targets. It's a socialist solution to gear for everyone, and does nothing to encourage PvP. Small guilds won't contest the big ones just because they have gear, people will just use the small guilds to gear up and join the big ones for better pixels.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by easy_lee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First, you have no evidence to support any of the bullshit you're spewing. Second, you don't back up your points with any sort of theory. Third, more zones means less people per zone, thus less PvP.

I said "More on that later". You are reaching with that pal and making selective attacks now.

When the Luclin Raid Pressure Relief Theory is unveiled, everything will make sense.

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said "More on that later". You are reaching with that pal and making selective attacks now.

When the Luclin Raid Pressure Relief Theory is unveiled, everything will make sense.

I've got a better idea. If you want expansions, go play on the live servers because they have all of them. If you want classic, then stay here. Regardless, Luclin has never been in the cards for this server and, based on responses from GMs and Devs alike, is never going to happen here.

Look at the past changes that have increased population. No item loot. YT. Experience bonus. No experience loss on death (something I don't even agree with, but whatever). They all have one thing in common: they remove barriers to PvP. Even YT, which seems meaningless, provides epeen incentive to engage in PvP.

More zones and raid targets both decrease the likelihood of PvP. It's so simple and obvious that I don't see why you're not getting it. For Luclin to work and, indeed, for velious to work, we'd need hundreds more people on this server. We ain't got hundreds more people, and there's no evidence to support the idea that releasing Luclin would bring in more.

[krazyGlue]

I have 6million raw plat and countless top tier items and 12 level 60s why would I ask for a wipe ? I love this server

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have 6million raw plat and countless top tier items and 12 level 60s why would I ask for a wipe ? I love this server

Sorry pal hard to keep track of these extremists w/out NSA help. My apologies.

I can tell you are afraid of Luclin pixels affecting your PvP and giving you less targets by adding more zones, but the Luclin Raid Pressure Relief Theory will show you why that is totally wrong.

For one, Velious BIS and Luclin BIS are identical aside from spell focus and mana regen (which is a much needed balance item for PvP).

If you are ok with Velious gear gap, by being against a wipe you seem to be ok with it, Luclin BIS is same stats as Velious BIS.

[silo32]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have 6million raw plat and countless top tier items and 12 level 60s why would I ask for a wipe ? I love this server

but haggles with me in game over a ssb saying 1k is too much and you wont pay any more than 600 even tho you have millions

you said this in game too

[Tradesonred]

lol @ heartbrand trying to frame classic population drop as a PVE thing.

Comparison to Rallos (which im guessing is where alot of those 600 people came from)

On Rallos you actually stopped to pvp on the way up. It was fun.

On Red, you either gank trained or gave up trying to pvp after the first few xp deaths, turning red into purple hide and seek (Generally speaking, a few exceptions). It was boring.

That is a MAAAAAJOOOOOOOOR difference, night and day.

Holocaust made it clear it was gonna use XP death in pvp to "grief people off the server" and thats exactly what happened.

[krazyGlue]

Originally Posted by silo32 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but haggles with me in game over a ssb saying 1k is too much and you wont pay any more than 600 even tho you have millions

you said this in game too

and the reason i have millions is because i dont buy over priced items