New server announced yet?

[thufir]

Originally Posted by brecon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't wait for a new server to launch. I wish it would launch soon.

The process of leveling and gearing, working in groups to go through content and to progress your character, are the aspects that draw me to the game. It's less fun in a context where everyone is simply racing to 60 because they want to hit raid level. It's less difficult when everyone has a pocket buffer to buff xp groups, and it's less fun when xp groups always hit the same zones. When you start a new server, there's such a rush of people in their 20s that groups choose to go other places than MM and Unrest because they can get more mobs, or there are better drops, etc.

Further, when you start a new server, you make new friends. Not everyone from Blue99 or Red99 will go to a new server. Some will stay behind, and some new people will join the Green99 server. Guilds from Blue may move over, but they'll take in new blood, and you get to know people more from leveling than from sitting in a raid channel, trying to keep quiet so guild leaders can issue instructions.

So yes, pras Green99 - may it come soon!

Nothing you have said prevents you, or anyone else, from doing this on blue 99 as it stands. Nor will it prevent anyone doing exactly what they do right now when they release green99.

I would like to see a green99 just because I never went through the pure classic, no-xpac era, and I would like to experience that. But I don't have any delusions that a fresh start will change the minds of the playerbase. Once you hit Kunark everyone will pile into Karnor's and that's that. It's the way the game is designed, for good or ill.

The route to 60 will still run through the exact same zones that it runs through now on a completely fresh server - unless *you* change what you do. And if you do, you will find that there are other people to group with that also want to change. And this is true on a green99 or a blue99 or any other server.

This is what I did. Out of all my characters, I've only ever had one of my five go to MM, or Crushbone, or Unrest - and in all cases, one or two trips was enough. I've never even been to CoM, except to kill Lord Rak Ash'iir. And I never had a pocket buffer, either. Groups formed around me wherever I went and I saw a lot of things I had never seen on Live. Still do, occasionally, even at those lower levels.

Wiping it clean won't change any of this. It's just like Zander says, there will still be hardcore players who want to race to the end, they have a specific progression model they follow, and they will all still do this on a new server. If you want to play how you describe, you need to start doing it.

[SirAlvarex]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing you have said prevents you, or anyone else, from doing this on blue 99 as it stands. Nor will it prevent anyone doing exactly what they do right now when they release green99.

I would like to see a green99 just because I never went through the pure classic, no-xpac era, and I would like to experience that. But I don't have any delusions that a fresh start will change the minds of the playerbase. Once you hit Kunark everyone will pile into Karnor's and that's that. It's the way the game is designed, for good or ill.

The route to 60 will still run through the exact same zones that it runs through now on a completely fresh server - unless *you* change what you do. And if you do, you will find that there are other people to group with that also want to change. And this is true on a green99 or a blue99 or any other server.

This is what I did. Out of all my characters, I've only ever had one of my five go to MM, or Crushbone, or Unrest - and in all cases, one or two trips was enough. I've never even been to CoM, except to kill Lord Rak Ash'iir. And I never had a pocket buffer, either. Groups formed around me wherever I went and I saw a lot of things I had never seen on Live. Still do, occasionally, even at those lower levels.

Wiping it clean won't change any of this. It's just like Zander says, there will still be hardcore players who want to race to the end, they have a specific progression model they follow, and they will all still do this on a new server. If you want to play how you describe, you need to start doing it.

I think more what the OP is saying is that right now you can't find groups willing to go to the out-of-the-way places.

I played back when it was just Classic and I do have to say that was more fun. Every zone was full of groups you could find quite easily. Kedge even had groups going there.

Raiding was a cluster-fuck tho no doubt about that. 2 raid targets made it hell.

For some people (like myself) it's really taxing trying to compose a group for a new area to explore. Especially when 9 out of 10 players will ask "why?" when they can just go to the easy XP spots that aren't as camped.

Altho IMO what I miss most about Classic was the shit itemization. Getting "good enough" gear was pretty easy and attainable for just about everyone. Plus I miss seeing Obsidian Shards being the go-to tank weapon for Warriors.

/nostalgia off

[thufir]

Originally Posted by SirAlvarex [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think more what the OP is saying is that right now you can't find groups willing to go to the out-of-the-way places.

I played back when it was just Classic and I do have to say that was more fun. Every zone was full of groups you could find quite easily. Kedge even had groups going there.

Raiding was a cluster-fuck tho no doubt about that. 2 raid targets made it hell.

For some people (like myself) it's really taxing trying to compose a group for a new area to explore. Especially when 9 out of 10 players will ask "why?" when they can just go to the easy XP spots that aren't as camped.

Altho IMO what I miss most about Classic was the shit itemization. Getting "good enough" gear was pretty easy and attainable for just about everyone. Plus I miss seeing Obsidian Shards being the go-to tank weapon for Warriors.

/nostalgia off

Yeah OK, this I can see. It's just silly to say that you can't group and level up in different places even in this age of the game. I haven't had too much problem getting groups with tanks or healers even in some pretty out of the way spots. You don't need some kind of hermetically sealed bubble to avoid getting buffs, either - nobody's exactly available to buff you if you go to Kaesora or Kerra Isle, for example.

But if this is what OP was really driving at, sure, I buy it. I'd like to do it myself! I never did Classic era during Live, sadly. By the time I started playing seriously it was already in Kunark.

[brecon]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing you have said prevents you, or anyone else, from doing this on blue 99 as it stands. Nor will it prevent anyone doing exactly what they do right now when they release green99.

You are picking a fight in the most pedantic of all ways. The simple fact is, a new server where everyone starts fresh is different from trying to 'play from zero' on a top-heavy established server.

Sure, you can try to create your own bubble, and maybe even find several groups of like-minded individuals to not accept high level buffs and to only rely on self-farmed gear. But then when your relatively undergeared group gets to the level where it wants to start farming some nice gear while xping, and they head to Solb, you find an afk shaman locking down tranix and an enchanter soloing at efreeti.

Then you head to EC, and realize that with the money you can earn farming seafuries for a few hours, you can buy the GEBS. And you're forced back into the game economy.

So please, by all means, moan about the problems of EQ and tell me how none of my concerns matter. But I, like a lot of other people, would like to play from a fresh classic progression server (I'd say following classic progression timeline and timing makes sense). If you don't want to come along, stay on Blue or quit, whatever.

[sirelothar]

Originally Posted by brecon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are picking a fight in the most pedantic of all ways. The simple fact is, a new server where everyone starts fresh is different from trying to 'play from zero' on a top-heavy established server.

Sure, you can try to create your own bubble, and maybe even find several groups of like-minded individuals to not accept high level buffs and to only rely on self-farmed gear. But then when your relatively undergeared group gets to the level where it wants to start farming some nice gear while xping, and they head to Solb, you find an afk shaman locking down tranix and an enchanter soloing at efreeti.

Then you head to EC, and realize that with the money you can earn farming seafuries for a few hours, you can buy the GEBS. And you're forced back into the game economy.

So please, by all means, moan about the problems of EQ and tell me how none of my concerns matter. But I, like a lot of other people, would like to play from a fresh classic progression server (I'd say following classic progression timeline and timing makes sense). If you don't want to come along, stay on Blue or quit, whatever.

Phinny just launched fyi

[brecon]

Originally Posted by sirelothar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Phinny just launched fyi

Yeah but it's not really classic with the updated mechanics. #Green99

[Prahadigm24]

Originally Posted by sirelothar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Phinny just launched fyi

Are you serious?

1. Phinigel is lightyears away from Classic. Only to name a few key differences: Completely different UI (e.g. zone maps!). Quicker experience gain, no hell levels, no class and race penalties. Instanced raiding. People can get a 40-slot satchel.

2. New expansions will unlock every 3 months. I mean come on, most classic players are 30 to 50 years old. If you want to enjoy each expansion in 3 months, you'll have to play 24/7. Which most of us cannot.

That's why my only hope is a new P1999 server.

[Issar]

A year or so ago, a "Recycle Server" was announced. It was stated that it would be launched after all of the Velious patches had been released. The server would run with the live timeline, and characters would be merged to blue at the end. The "Green Server" would then be wiped and they would begin the timeline again. Imo, that's the greatest gaming news I've heard since discovering P99.

[trite]

I think the plan is solid, the only thing that bothers are the inevitable name conflicts that will happen on a large scale when green merges into blue....so many green characters getting X appended to their name. People will have spent a couple years playing their characters and will have to reserve names on blue (which has a limited selection of cool names at this point) in anticipation of the merger if they don't want them modified!...

[Issar]

Originally Posted by trite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the plan is solid, the only thing that bothers are the inevitable name conflicts that will happen on a large scale when green merges into blue....so many green characters getting X appended to their name. People will have spent a couple years playing their characters and will have to reserve names on blue (which has a limited selection of cool names at this point) in anticipation of the merger if they don't want them modified!...

And that's a valid concern that was brought up. Personally, it's not a big issue since I just plan on playing on the green server and only logging blue during lulls in action on green. There are several classes that I would have liked to have mained during live and this would give me the opportunity to experience that. Enough gaming to last me for 15 years...