Big Thanks to Cloki from Omni

[Swish]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The big three

They were certainly big. Why should the biggest zerg guilds have dictated what was and wasn't achievable?

"Hey guys, we're taking 90 to Trakanon... why u strugglin?"

The emphasis was of course meant to be on the "casual" side of things, not what TMO etc could manage.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by mgellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Each of the Guilds in the rotation killed the mobs solo (or in a fixed partnership occupying one slot) to actually get into the rotation, right? The issue was more about burning out mustering a raid force at 3AM to do some shitty Gore kill. We didn't want to live like that, hence we partnered.

Regards,
Mg

Letting it go Class R FFA as was built into the rotation wasn't an option?

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only necessity to get on the rotation list was to ask in raid discussion to be added (which you were then added at the bottom of the list). No guild had to "prove" they could kill any raid target to get on that target's list.

They had to kill it to stay on the list, the spreadsheet even had a different color for that scenario...

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem being the "big three" were listed once per mob, while an alliance would get to kill it every time a member came up, so a 3-guild alliance (for some mobs) would get to kill the mob thrice as often as "the big three", barring lockouts.

So what? If three guilds kill mobs in their respective slots does not 1/3 1/3 1/3 add up to one?

Regards,
Mg

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Letting it go Class R FFA as was built into the rotation wasn't an option?

Sure. Of course then the Big3 would whine that the Guild wasn't capable of killing the mob and want to push them out of the spot for moar pixels. Of course the ultimatums formalized that.

Regards,
Mg

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by mgellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure. Of course then the Big3 would whine that the Guild wasn't capable of killing the mob and want to push them out of the spot for moar pixels. Of course the ultimatums formalized that.

Regards,
Mg

Why would they do that? They'd be getting more pixels and be on lockout, you can always hope for a better window next time.

[Relbaic]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just here to provide that reality check you guys seem to need re: history, damage done to the casual raid scene, and casual guilds themselves (RIP Moonlight Crusaders etc).

And with all that, and having consumed 1 in 3 Class R Kunark dragons... the backdrop for Velious hasn't been so giving. Now you have an inflated roster to gear out and less pixels to do it with...and you want changes to the raid scene because it's not going your way anymore?

Honestly, wake up. Chest still has his fingers in his ears to all of this, maybe you can save him.

If your goal here was to provide that reality check then you wouldn't throw comments around such as

Make a new year's resolution to be more positive, for your own sake. If you'd like to take a step in the right direction I'd start with looking for a new guild

since you have absolutely zero idea what actually goes on in the guild. You take what you read in RnF as gospel and refuse to acknowledge anything any one in BDA has to say as factual. Where is your outrage at Taken and Divinity for wanting to dissolve the rotation as well? Everything you spew is anti-BDA when the fact is 50% of this entire server is shit yet you refuse to acknowledge any of it's problems besides what BDA does/doesn't do.

Try actually opening your eyes to the fact that this server has plenty of issues and not nearly as many as you think are BDAs fault.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by mgellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what? If three guilds kill mobs in their respective slots does not 1/3 1/3 1/3 add up to one?

Regards,
Mg

The rotation went more like this:
Asgard (arbitrary start, with help from Azure Guard, Europa)
Bregan D`Aerth
Omni (with help from Indignation)
Azure Guard (with help from Asgard, Europa)
Taken
Indignation (with help from Omni)
Divinity
Europa (with help from Azure Guard, Asgard)


Yes I'd need to go a bit further, but you see how it quickly develops that Asgard, Azure Guard, Europa (alliance1) and Omni and Indignation (alliance2) (not historically accurate, but demonstrates my point) are killing mobs two or three times as often as guilds that kill their rotation targets solo. BDA could have cashed in on this by making guilds <Bregan>, <D`>, and <Aerth>, but we didn't. We felt that alliances should play to similar moral standards. How many solo kills did Omni have during the rotation?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Relbaic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

since you have absolutely zero idea what actually goes on in the guild. You take what you read in RnF as gospel and refuse to acknowledge anything any one in BDA has to say as factual.

He spreads 90% of the RnF lies, of course he's gonna preach it. He's already been called out as a liar. He has 0 credibility. Virtually everything he posts can be discarded without a thought.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by mgellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure. Of course then the Big3 would whine that the Guild wasn't capable of killing the mob and want to push them out of the spot for moar pixels. Of course the ultimatums formalized that.

Regards,
Mg

Man you got brainwashed. If the big 3 guilds wanted "moar pixels" then there wouldn't have been a rotation in the first place which of course is the only reason Omni exists, a splinter guild created for the sole purpose of using the rotation to get kills. Keep on doing your thing though, I'm sure Cloki's 5th twink could use some epics, like his ranger or Gats' level 24 wizard y'all decided to epic. I guess it's dire straights over there anyways seeing that Gats took off, he must have run out of twinks to gear.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rotation went more like this:
Asgard (arbitrary start, with help from Azure Guard, Europa)
Bregan D`Aerth
Omni (with help from Indignation)
Azure Guard (with help from Asgard, Europa)
Taken
Indignation (with help from Omni)
Divinity
Europa (with help from Azure Guard, Asgard)


Yes I'd need to go a bit further, but you see how it quickly develops that Asgard, Azure Guard, Europa (alliance1) and Omni and Indignation (alliance2) (not historically accurate, but demonstrates my point) are killing mobs two or three times as often as guilds that kill their rotation targets solo. BDA could have cashed in on this by making guilds <Bregan>, <D`>, and <Aerth>, but we didn't. We felt that alliances should play to similar moral standards. How many solo kills did Omni have during the rotation?

Hey! You forgot A-Team. I think we did the bulk of our kills solo though except for a few bad hour Gorenaires.