Monk vs Ranger dps

[fiveeauxfour]

Im beginning to think that epic ranger > epic/sos monk dps. With stones so easy to get now I think we will see alot of monk tears with rangers out dpsing them. Especially because rangers have access to many many great mainhand weapons while monks rely on wu's fists and cekenar/eashen and primals.

Also, rangers get massive attack buffs its wtf crazy

[ghost182]

But Kicks and triple attack?

[Cheps]

It's true that inny stone is much easier to get now. But what about vsr? Doesn't that guy spawn just 12 hours after vs, meaning just once per week? I think next era patch he should spawn once per day?

[Colgate]

with primal and gharn's rock of smashing + sky fist i'm parsing evenly or very close to primal rogues using things like claw of lightning

monks will come out on top with triple attack and the heightened damage tables

rangers don't really come close

[Ciroco]

Your epic is still better than our easily attainable main handers.

[Oleris]

We parsed some fights in hate, ranger tore my SOS monk apart and was just slightly below Florids fully geared monk (check his magelo). The ranger did have a north tov weapon though. The rangers attack was ~1450 while my monk was ~1150

[Fanguru]

Velious + outdoor zone boosts ranger atk a lot, especially when they finally fix the offensive skill caps.
Hate is one of the very few raid zones where a ranger can use greater wolf form for a nice atk boost.
Velious brought CotP + SoN, but those two can also be cast on monks.

To reach 1450 atk, ranger needs a lot of buffs, including boon of the garou or avatar. At 60, the monk did not have the same buffs to get 1150 atk only.

monks will come out on top with triple attack and the heightened damage tables

Isn't monk and ranger damage table the same on 1H weapons?

Best ranger weapon also has a 100 dd proc (-100 resist fire) which is hard to parse.
A monk can also use that weapon, but they can get better monk weaps.

One could argue rangers also have call of fire for a small, additional, hard-to-parse dps boost, but this thing generates so much aggro it is not worth it.
Monks aggro on the other hand is trivial to clear.

Monks have the edge on short fights like Kunark dragons with disc.
I am unsure if they still have the edge on longer fights.

To get a clear advantage, rangers need BFG back (and a LOT of arrows).

[fiveeauxfour]

Originally Posted by Oleris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We parsed some fights in hate, ranger tore my SOS monk apart and was just slightly below Florids fully geared monk (check his magelo). The ranger did have a north tov weapon though. The rangers attack was ~1450 while my monk was ~1150

those mini names have massive ac on them, I want to see the parses on regular raid bosses when the average hit is above 30.

I think that AC fights like lucan squish dps numbers down to like a normalized number?

[Ciroco]

Monk base attack should be higher than Ranger until the hybrid caps are fixed, no? There would have to be a ton of buff differences to give 300 extra attack.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Fanguru [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Velious + outdoor zone boosts ranger atk a lot, especially when they finally fix the offensive skill caps.
Hate is one of the very few raid zones where a ranger can use greater wolf form for a nice atk boost.
Velious brought CotP + SoN, but those two can also be cast on monks.

To reach 1450 atk, ranger needs a lot of buffs, including boon of the garou or avatar. At 60, the monk did not have the same buffs to get 1150 atk only.



Isn't monk and ranger damage table the same on 1H weapons?

Best ranger weapon also has a 100 dd proc (-100 resist fire) which is hard to parse.
A monk can also use that weapon, but they can get better monk weaps.

One could argue rangers also have call of fire for a small, additional, hard-to-parse dps boost, but this thing generates so much aggro it is not worth it.
Monks aggro on the other hand is trivial to clear.

Monks have the edge on short fights like Kunark dragons with disc.
I am unsure if they still have the edge on longer fights.

To get a clear advantage, rangers need BFG back (and a LOT of arrows).

best monk weapon is an unresistable 80 damage proc, not to mention the best ratio 1 hander in the game outside of paladin/SK weapons

with a gharn's and a fist of lightning, i don't think anything can even come close to monks in terms of melee damage other than a rogue using vulak dagger and claw of lightning